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Old 08-12-2015, 05:10 PM
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No, unfortunately 78SuzyQ seems to think I dropped an assembled carb in a bucket of solvent and called that good which isn't the case at all. I've had the entire carb apart probably 20 freaking times now and all jets and passages are 100% clear. I've watched carb cleaner go through each one so poking a wire through seems moot at this point.
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Ok.
Just trying to help.
Must be supernatural forces.
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Actually what I use on jets is a thing called a welders tip cleaner. It is a wire like device with many different sizes that have a very mild rough edge on it. It helps break down the built up fuel from the inside of the jets. Remember that our current pump "E" fuels leave a very hard dried clear surface deposit when it dries. It will change the orfice sizes of jets that will not come off with and carb cleaner or soak.

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Old 08-12-2015, 06:30 PM
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Ok.
Just trying to help.
Must be supernatural forces.
The help is definitely appreciated! I just can't see any sense in running a wire through the carb when the carb cleaner goes through the passages with no indication of a blockage anywhere.

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Actually what I use on jets is a thing called a welders tip cleaner. It is a wire like device with many different sizes that have a very mild rough edge on it. It helps break down the built up fuel from the inside of the jets. Remember that our current pump "E" fuels leave a very hard dried clear surface deposit when it dries. It will change the orfice sizes of jets that will not come off with and carb cleaner or soak.

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Wouldn't that mainly be an issue with the pilot jet? All the orifices in that jet are definitely clear. I suppose at this point I have nothing to lose by trying it...
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Old 08-12-2015, 06:53 PM
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Being a guitar player I like to use the excess string I cut off while putting on a new set. They work great also and go down to .009" .011" .016" .024" etc.
looked at my last carb clean with a mag glass and saw plenty of crust left behind by the b-12 spray. Strings scraped it out pretty well. Seriously though "completely dies" sounds like more than a jet down a micron.

only 20 times? Your halfway there lol!
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Old 08-12-2015, 09:43 PM
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BURN IT.
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Pulling your hair out, been there.
Set it aside and it will come to you, been there too.
Thinking about what an engine needs to run after setting it aside will get your mind working in background.
Work on one of your other bikes or something.
I used to do this by accident after getting to the end of my rope and just giving up.
My mind was working even after I had become mentally exhausted.
Some time later I would have an AHA moment.
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Old 08-13-2015, 08:08 AM
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Pulling your hair out, been there.
Set it aside and it will come to you, been there too.
Thinking about what an engine needs to run after setting it aside will get your mind working in background.
Work on one of your other bikes or something.
I used to do this by accident after getting to the end of my rope and just giving up.
My mind was working even after I had become mentally exhausted.
Some time later I would have an AHA moment.
Oh trust me I've been trying to mull it over in my head and see if I have that AHA moment but nothing so far. I figured the oil pump adjustment would seal the deal but no such luck!
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Old 08-13-2015, 11:31 AM
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I looked up the engine schematic.
That's a funky case reed engine with the air cleaner attached to the side of the engine, right?
Partzilla only had early 80's and then started back up with the 95 model.
Btw-something else that I have seen is a crack in a carb that goofed up the engine characteristics.
Most of these weird things happen to vintage bikes

The only Suzuki I've ever owned was an 88 LT80 bought for the wife.
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I looked up the engine schematic.
That's a funky case reed engine with the air cleaner attached to the side of the engine, right?
Partzilla only had early 80's and then started back up with the 95 model.
Btw-something else that I have seen is a crack in a carb that goofed up the engine characteristics.
Most of these weird things happen to vintage bikes

The only Suzuki I've ever owned was an 88 LT80 bought for the wife.
It is a case reed engine but the air cleaner is not engine mounted, it's mounted in an airbox under the seat in the normal configuration. I think only the earliest bikes had the engine mounted air cleaner.

I haven't seen any cracks in the carb in all the times I've worked on it but I suppose anything is possible!
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