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Old 01-13-2010, 08:08 PM
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Moto What is the best year of CR 250?

I am considering getting a used CR 250. What is your favorite year and why?
You guys are the pros. Please help me out.

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i hear the 2000-2001 are the best year because they have mechanical powervalves and the motor is good.

after '01 the powervalves were opened electronically. i would think thats better but its just like prefering a 5 speed over an automatic. it depends on hown much of a control freak you are.
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Allot of people in the know say the 2001. The later models are case induction and it just didn't work out.
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If you are talking motor-wise.....hands down the 01. Smooth but not sluggish. Raced this bike in the dez for a few years before I made the orange switch and I loved it. The wife now races this bike so I put a 12 oz, which I may change to a 14, flywheel weight and changed the gearing (14/47) and the bike flat out rips. It has seen it's fair share of +70 mph on several occasions and the low end is still pretty strong (even with the gearing change). My only gripe is that the frame rigidity along with the suspension valving makes the bike feel like a 2 X 4. I spent quite a bit of money on getting the forks in order and now the bike is plush yet resist bottoming when hitting the whoops. Although it's not perfect it's pretty damn close.

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honestly.... i personally would like an 02 with my rebuilt 98 motor stuffed inside

02 was a newer gen frame. a whole lot better frame from what i hear. but i guess they made some changes to the motor and it wasnt very liked. 98 is supposidly the powerhouse motor and i can def vouch for that lol
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I am considering getting a used CR 250. What is your favorite year and why?
Best used CR250 is the 2001. Had the motor of doom and a decent frame
and suspension. The best new CR250 is the 2010 Service Honda CR250.
The same motor of doom and a sweet 2010 CRF250 frame and suspension.
The badest HPP valve engine ever combined with a gen 5 frame. Other
than the $10,000+ price tag, what's not to like.

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Dogger,

I have never understood the connection or the effects of a too stiff or too flex frame.
What are the outward handling characteristics of either?

I mean, you're out on a dirt track and what ever flexing or lack there of would be masked by the general slip and bump of the environment.

Always wondered about that.

Thank you sensei.
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Can you guys tell me about the motor of the 2001? I have ridden a 2001, though it was a 265, and it was very strong, but the hit when going into the powerband was pretty hard -- hard enough I was really happy to get back on my 4 stroke.

I've also ridden a 2000 YZ250 and I loved the motor on that bike. Very smooth and linear in its power delivery. How do they compare for those of you that have ridden them both.
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I read an article in a MX magazine a while back which asked top professional riders which bike they consider the best of all time up until year 2006.
The CR 250r 2000 and 2001 models had the most votes with the YZ 250 comming in second far behind.
They considered the aluminium next generation frame back then ideal for riding conditions + it was the last model before fuel system went electric which all riders considered a good thing...
Im not a professional Im just telling you what I read...
If you want the names of all the riders asked I can look it up for you.
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Yes, the pro's probably did like it, but what about those of us that are slow? I really think the 2001 CR250 might be a bit much for a noob. The hit is just too abrupt.

I really think a YZ250 might be a better beginner bike. Not sure which year YZ's had tame motors like that though, other than the 2000 I rode.

I'd really like him to get an RM, but I have never ridden one and I have no idea what the power characteristics are like on them. Oh and he'd NEVER agree to it anyway. But I would LOVE watching him eat CROW! What are friends for anyway right
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I have heard that crow taste like chicken! But I am kinda hoping I don't have to find out. I did see a 2006 RMZ for $2.9k still out of my range. Dang! I hate it when that happens!
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I just bought an '01 yesterday and I can tell you the bike stands up like my 500. I would like to give a definitive comparison but my 500 is the only thing I have to compare. I have read though that the 2000 and 2001 are the best years with the 2001 taking the nod for a better powerband delivery.
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have never understood the connection or the effects of a too stiff or too flex frame.
What are the outward handling characteristics of either?
VAL, That's a tough one to answer without writing a book. The important
engineering consideration is to design the frame to be stiff enough to only
allow the suspension to travel in the desired direction while still allowing
enough elasticity to compensate for resonance and harmonics. If you get
it wrong (think '97-'99 CR250), you get a frame with 2X6 spars that feels
overly wide and transmits everything to the rider in the form of harsh
vibration and buzz along with a "jackhammer" ride. If you look at consecutive
generations, each frame has smaller and smaller spars and less triangulation
at the suspension pickups. The gen 5 frame spars are only 1X2 and the
shock mounts are much less massive. This frame allows the shock, linkage,
swingarm and forks to work without allowing rotational or torquing motion
and is elastic enough to absorb any remaining vibration. The end result is a
comparitively plush ride allowing the rider to hang tough much longer in the
moto.

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Can you guys tell me about the motor of the 2001?
Woody, You are absolutely right about the '00 and '01 motors. Both had
fairly radical port timing which produced a pro/expert level powerband in
stock form. The engines were a little too stout for the beginning rider and
many people tried to tame the hit with flywheel weights and extra head
gaskets. I come from the school that you can never have too much power,
as long as it is useable and in my opinion, this engine was/is the best ever
production two stroke 250MX engine. The YZ's smooth, linear power band
is much better for someone starting out.

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I just bought an '01 yesterday and I can tell you the bike stands up like my 500.
Agreed. My '01 race bike could easily hang with my 500. My '01 was heavily
modified and produced about four less horsepower than my mostly stock 500,
but it was lighter and hooked up better so the lap times were a bit quicker.

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Thanks Dogger, that's what I wanted to know. I would just hate for Honda fan boi to buy one and hate it cause it threw him off on the first trip out.

again, thank you for you insight and honesty
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pssh... i have an 01 250 jetted on race gas bla bla bla.

when that power band hits i find it to be more nerve racking than picking the front end up on a street bike.

id really like a way to limit the power some how. like limit the amount i can turn the throttle for a little while till i get used to it. any way thats possible? it is really too fast for now. lol
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