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Old 04-16-2012, 04:06 PM
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I've been absent from this scene for a while, and this is somewhat stale news, but wanted to share it here anyway. Bought this bike on Boxing Day. It's now finished. The story goes something like this:

Yes, I have ADHD and could not pass this one up. I really wanted an 84, but when this popped up in the local classifieds a thousand "what if's" started going off in my head. At this point in time, I'm not sure where I'm headed with it, not likely a restoration, as the wife will castrate me. I told her it was a "money making opportunity", and had the intention to fix it up and flip it in the spring. That really was my intention with the YZ 465 as well...... At this point in time, I have already purchased a pipe, subframe, fenders, and clutch cover with much more to be desired. I don't know what is wrong with me.




Anybody with parts for sale that I may need, please let me know.

---------- Post added at 05:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:55 PM ----------

Been absent for quite a while (again), but have some progress to report of. Tore the bike down completely, straigtened the shock reservoir mount, rechased all the threads and repaired with heli-coils as needed. Sandblasted, sanded, and primered. Got a subframe from *** for an 88 which I modded to fit, cut the right side downtube off my 85 subframe and welded it to the 88. It's primered and ready for paint now as well. Then, a couple of days after all the work I did on the frame, a roller pops up for sale which I could not pass up. Only four hours away, so off I go on a Good Friday road trip to pick this bad boy up! I can pretty much just drop my motor in and go riding, but it surely won't happen that quickly. Going to go over everything and decide which parts are going where, as I now have 3 85's minus an engine. This awesome roller had one small detail which was the decision maker and sealed the deal without a question. FMF FATTY! I'll get some pics up soon, also tore into the engine to find an 89mm bore in excellent condition! Just when I thought I'd never had any luck other than bad..... Did the water pump housing refurb with JB weld, along with new seals and bearing. Ordered new rings just for the hell of it. It's going to be a decent bike after all. I'm trying to not make it as nice as the YZ 465 though, my wife still thinks it's going to turn a profit.

---------- Post added at 06:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:58 PM ----------

I haven't been keeping the camera nearby lately, but do have a few pics of the water pump before and after and how the bike sits currently. I am planning to fire it up this weekend, if all goes well. As of right now, just killing time on the computer, with a hangover and lack of ambition. It's GOING to run this weekend, come hell or high water.....










---------- Post added at 06:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:01 PM ----------

Just came in for a break with good and bad news to report of. The good news: I fired her up, started with only 5 kicks. The not so good news: Flippin' head gasket is bleeding like a sieve. Passed a leakdown test after gooping the reed valve gaskets which were leaking on first attempt. Didn't give it a second thought, and don't like to put sealant on head gaskets unless absolutely necessary. I guess I wasted my time cleaning and sealing the pipe flange yesterday, going to have to start over again. No point whining about it.......

---------- Post added at 06:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:02 PM ----------

Head gasket isn't my only problem. Now have no spark. I am pointing in the direction of the CDI, but not quite sure, maybe someone else here can jump in and point me in the right direction. I've checked all the obvious items, kill switch, bad ground, etc. The two leads that come out of the CDI and go to the kill switch (green and black/white) have continuity between them and are both grounded. Does that sound right to anyone here? I'm thinking the green should be grounded but not the B/W wire? Help please.

---------- Post added at 06:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:02 PM ----------

Been tinkering all afternoon, tested everything and found my culprit. The stator failed the resisitance test so I immediately thought the worst and pulled the flywheel to take it off. Once the flywheel was off, it magically passed test within the specified ohm range. Upon closer inspection, I found that someone (that was clueless) had their hands where they shouldn't have. Anyway, the wires coming from the stator were contacting the flywheel and rubbed through causing a short.


I took it apart, coated the bare wires with liquid electrical tape, routed them where they're supposed to be, away from harm, and now have my spark back! Removed the head, cleaned and gooped the gasket and reinstalled. Almost put the old one back in, it's the layered steel type which I prefer over the crappy coated fiber or whatever it is. Athena kit was what I ordered, won't use them again, had the same isue with their head gasket on a YZ 80 not too long ago. The beast will live another day.

---------- Post added at 06:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:04 PM ----------

It's been one hell of an action packed day, my most ambitious day in quite some time! I present to you, the his and hers matching bikes (that's what I told my wife! ). Far from perfect, not quite finished, but complete for now. Have new side panels and seat cover to go on, might be a job for tomorrow. Right now, just going to kick back with a cold one and admire the twins.







---------- Post added at 06:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:05 PM ----------

To make a long story short, there she sits, and is now for sale so I can move on to another.....
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Old 04-16-2012, 05:05 PM
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Looks like a real nice job! Nothing like a matched pair of killer 500s.
I'd have a tough time parting with it.

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Old 04-16-2012, 06:08 PM
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Real nice resto..
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:50 PM
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I am jealous!!!!

I would have to keep both bikes on my trailer, towing them everywhere I went just to show off.

What kind of $$$$$ does one of your 500s go for.

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Old 04-17-2012, 02:13 PM
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Here in Canada where EVERYTHING is inflated, you don't see many around for less than $2000. Most of you will probably think this is absurd, but I won't part with it for less than $2400, that's what I currently have invested.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:48 PM
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wow mate that is a pair of sexy 500's :-o over here in the uk mate $2400 is cheap shame u dont live here u would get alot more for that baby. I seen a 1990 500 go for 3,000 in mint condition as your's good luck mate keep us posted with anymore more builds. Really intresting to read up
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I am jealous!!!!

I would have to keep both bikes on my trailer, towing them everywhere I went just to show off.

What kind of $$$$$ does one of your 500s go for.

Andy
That's funny, when I was about 18 I used to do the same thing, had a brand new RM 250 and even when I wasn't going riding, I would sometimes load it up and drive around town. Yeah, it ended up getting stolen, so now I have a few nice bikes but really see no reason to advertise them unneccessarily. I have my ad posted now, added a bit of arrogant hostility to it to weed out the losers and lowballers.
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:52 PM
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Oh wow! Awoesome restoration work!
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Old 04-20-2012, 07:54 AM
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jeez! what was your budget. Looks great!
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Heck, there aren't that many people who can ever say they owned a pair of '85 cr500's and you have them both looking nearly new, at the same time!
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Old 04-20-2012, 10:38 AM
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Awesome, I hope I can own a CR500 some day.
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Old 04-20-2012, 11:24 AM
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I have had the same one almost 24 years,,,Kind of hard to let that one go , ever. nice to keep it to settle arguements if nothing else.
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Old 04-20-2012, 02:34 PM
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Looks like a real nice job! Nothing like a matched pair of killer 500s.
I'd have a tough time parting with it.

dogger
I'm with you all the way on selling the thing. I don't understand people that do this "flipping" (of dirt bikes or other machines at least). To buy something you absolutely and genuinely LOVE, and poor your heart and soul into working on, only for some MONEY? Especially something so classic.

I dunno, that's probably why I still own my 95 Z71 that's lifted and modded to hell and back, along with my cr250 that I sold in college, and recently found and bought back. Won't be selling either of them...oh, let's see...ever
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I'm with you all the way on selling the thing. I don't understand people that do this "flipping" (of dirt bikes or other machines at least). To buy something you absolutely and genuinely LOVE, and poor your heart and soul into working on, only for some MONEY? Especially something so classic.

I dunno, that's probably why I still own my 95 Z71 that's lifted and modded to hell and back, along with my cr250 that I sold in college, and recently found and bought back. Won't be selling either of them...oh, let's see...ever
Trust me buddy, I won't make a profit, I will be lucky to break even. I have a bike addiction and if I don't sell one then I am not allowed to buy another, says my wife. Not sure if you saw my YZ 465 build or not, but I still have that one too, accumulating too many and really don't NEED 2 85 CR500s. I really have 2 addictions, one of which I am working to overcome, not sure if you heard of it. Alcoholism? One addiction takes from the other, and the bikes seem to keep me sober. Plus, the idea of saving a bike from the scrapyard or from being parted out and putting it back into a riders hands gives me a good feeling at the end of the day. The bikes I've started with were laughable junkers, so I really don't see any harm in flipping, although I do understand getting attached!!!
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nice job! its great to see the old 500s being restored rather than someone parting it out for a bit of cash.
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Did you sand down the plastics? or just order new ones?
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Did you sand down the plastics? or just order new ones?
Actually, I bought some new sidepanels and was planning on restoring the tank, when a roller popped up fairly local and had everything I needed. So I had to pick it up, the old plastics are now there for spares if needed some day.
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Old 04-21-2012, 08:20 PM
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Sick Resto!

For some reason I absolutely love the older bikes!!!
Id take that 500 to the track and blow everyone away just for laughs..

Good job though,much better than I'd be able to do :/
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Brought it out for a few rides and worked the jetting out, runs and starts like a champ now, first kick every time. It's now for sale if anyone is interested. Need the cash for a can of worms I opened up doing home renovations. If it sells, I can then go on the prowl for my next project.....
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Vaer nice
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