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Old 12-20-2015, 12:32 PM
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I'm trying to source a few items for my 1993 Honda CR 250 restore project.
1. Recommendation on a new shifter as OEM is NLA
2. Is there another year airbox that fits. The white 93-96 is no longer available and I'm good with buying a black one if its new.
3. Rear brake pedal? A bigger one would be nice.
4. Do I have the parts like the swingarm powdercoated clear after they are blasted? I also have the PC works pipe being cleaned up so does that get cleared as well?
Any other suggestions on parts?
This is not a OEM rebuild but will be ridden on occasion. So far I have torn the bike down, sent the frame and sub out for powdercoat (white), soda blasted the motor and carb prior to rebuilding both, swimarm being blasted now. Just having issues with some sourcing. Brake calipers being cleaned up and will be sent out for PC as well.

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Old 12-20-2015, 11:18 PM
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1. Any shifter from 90-01 should fit and work just fine.
2. If you opt for the black airbox, you'll also have to replace the side panels
with ones from a 95 or 96. The White airbox you need is unique to the 92-94
so finding a good used one and restoring it the best you can is your best
option unless you want to change over to the Black box and side panels.
3. No bigger pedals but Works Connection sells weld on pedal enlargers and
some other company sell complete pedals that can be altered (using a torch
and some persuasion), to fit.
4. PCing the swingarm after restoring will make it easier to clean up. Do not
coat a bare metal PC pipe because the pipe will get too hot for any clear
powder and having to clean it up with a Scotchbrite pad and WD40 is part
of the pleasure of running a works pipe.

Do not powder coat the brake calipers. There is no need. I have never seen a
brake caliper that could not be cleaned up to look brand new by blasting with
glass bead. I did a post on rebuilding a pair of old brake calipers a while back.
There are lots of pictures and when done, you can't tell they weren't just
purchased new from Honda. If you're interested, I'm sure you can find the post
with a basic search.
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Old 12-21-2015, 03:36 AM
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1. Any shifter from 90-01 should fit and work just fine.
2. If you opt for the black airbox, you'll also have to replace the side panels
with ones from a 95 or 96. The White airbox you need is unique to the 92-94
so finding a good used one and restoring it the best you can is your best
option unless you want to change over to the Black box and side panels.
3. No bigger pedals but Works Connection sells weld on pedal enlargers and
some other company sell complete pedals that can be altered (using a torch
and some persuasion), to fit.
4. PCing the swingarm after restoring will make it easier to clean up. Do not
coat a bare metal PC pipe because the pipe will get too hot for any clear
powder and having to clean it up with a Scotchbrite pad and WD40 is part
of the pleasure of running a works pipe.

Do not powder coat the brake calipers. There is no need. I have never seen a
brake caliper that could not be cleaned up to look brand new by blasting with
glass bead. I did a post on rebuilding a pair of old brake calipers a while back.
There are lots of pictures and when done, you can't tell they weren't just
purchased new from Honda. If you're interested, I'm sure you can find the post
with a basic search.


PC the calipers or anything also works as an insulator, and in some applications where heat needs to be dissipated quickly PC is not an option, only a light coat of high heat paint if you fancy, or else which I also personally prefer - media blasting to make it look like new.
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Great suggestions on the brakes!!! I will get them cleaned up next. What is the best crank to buy? OEM? Year?? Also I am having a hard time sourcing Ti pegs. Anyone have a lead? I think I'm going to sell the PC works pipe and buy a platinum so I don't have to deal with it.

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I figured out the crank, still struggling with the Ti pegs. Anyone know what years YZF 250 pegs fit?
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i'm also looking for a set of pegs but cannot find something decent for that year and i've read somewhere through this forum that yz426f fit directly, maybe only with a new set of springs, are you sure about the 250 yzf ? they could probably be the same pegs...
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There are a few stes on 2005 YZ250F pegs on ebay now, jiust want to ensure they are plug and play.
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:56 AM
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I figured out the crank, still struggling with the Ti pegs. Anyone know what years YZF 250 pegs fit?
No experience with your particular bike, but my 98 CR500 has a set of Yamaha titanium pegs from a YZF that bolted straight on, used the YZF springs and pins even. I'm pretty sure Yamaha went to Ti pegs in 2006.
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No experience with your particular bike, but my 98 CR500 has a set of Yamaha titanium pegs from a YZF that bolted straight on, used the YZF springs and pins even. I'm pretty sure Yamaha went to Ti pegs in 2006.
So I looked it all the part numbers up and 2003 through 2007 YZ250F all share the identical pegs. The part number chages in 2008 along with the price per peg dropping in half. I assume 2008 went to a steel peg. Now I just need to figure out if they bolt right on a 93 CR 250! Cowboy, I'll cross reference your 98 CR 500 with my 250 and see if the part number is the same. May be a good start if no one else chimes in!

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Different part numbers! Darn

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i'm also looking for a set of pegs but cannot find something decent for that year and i've read somewhere through this forum that yz426f fit directly, maybe only with a new set of springs, are you sure about the 250 yzf ? they could probably be the same pegs...
So I just checked, the YZ250F and 450 are the same peg. Now we just need to figure out if they are are direct bolt on to our bikes!
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So I looked it all the part numbers up and 2003 through 2007 YZ250F all share the identical pegs. The part number chages in 2008 along with the price per peg dropping in half. I assume 2008 went to a steel peg. Now I just need to figure out if they bolt right on a 93 CR 250! Cowboy, I'll cross reference your 98 CR 500 with my 250 and see if the part number is the same. May be a good start if no one else chimes in!

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Different part numbers! Darn

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So I just checked, the YZ250F and 450 are the same peg. Now we just need to figure out if they are are direct bolt on to our bikes!
I could try putting the YZF pegs on my 95 CR250 if I ever find a spare minute.
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Cowboy, I think the 93/94 have different pegs than the 95/96 if I remember correctly.
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Cowboy, I think the 93/94 have different pegs than the 95/96 if I remember correctly.
I believe the difference is width, not mounting but I've been wrong before
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Nope, your correct! My bad!

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Maybe dogger knows off the top of his head so you don't have to swap your pegs!

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Cowboy can you let me see a pic of your 500? I have not had one since i bought a new 1989 back in the day...
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Nope, your correct! My bad!

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Maybe dogger knows off the top of his head so you don't have to swap your pegs!

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Cowboy can you let me see a pic of your 500? I have not had one since i bought a new 1989 back in the day...
I actually have two and neither are anything special. The one that is assembled, a 98/90 hybrid:



My 91, this was actually the first one I bought and I have it torn down waiting a full rebuild


Several members here have some really nice 500's.
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There is a lot of interest in bigger and/or Titanium foot pegs for the steelies.
I used PC steel pegs back in the day. PC started marketing Ti pegs in 97
which could be adapted to fit the steelie frame with a little grinding. So
you have several options. You can find a used set of PC foot pegs from
92-96, PC pegs from 97-99 and grind the stops to fit, a pair of OEM
Honda foot pegs from 97-99 (which are bigger than the 92-96 pegs), and
grind to fit, or the 2003-07 YZ/YZF pegs.

As far as comparability, all the steelie pegs (125, 250), are interchangeable.
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Thanks! I found a set of YZ250 F pegs I'll go with from 2005. Ordered all new assembly pieces for them OEM Honda.

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I actually have two and neither are anything special. The one that is assembled, a 98/90 hybrid:



My 91, this was actually the first one I bought and I have it torn down waiting a full rebuild


Several members here have some really nice 500's.
Awesome!
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So here is the first pic of my restore, picture from CL, not even washed.
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...88c03c9e7b.jpg[COLOR="Red"]

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After a quick wash, pretty clapped out.
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/.../DSC007511.jpg
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/.../DSC007531.jpg

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http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSC00752.jpg

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http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSC00754.jpg

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http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSC00759.jpg
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That doesn't look too bad really, at least not to me.
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Teardown, 2 weeks ago:
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSC00757.jpg
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/.../DSC007601.jpg
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/.../DSC007701.jpg

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http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/.../DSC007641.jpg

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http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/.../DSC007661.jpg

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http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/.../DSC007681.jpg

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http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/.../DSC007741.jpg

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Another of when I bought it 3 weeks ago.
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...FDEC099DA9.jpg

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http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSC00775.jpg

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http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSC00785.jpg

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Broken down.
http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/...e/DSC00788.jpg
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Let the fun begin!

Looks like you have a real nice basis for your resto - nice find.

Make sure you check the bottom of the frame cradle for rust and
thin spots after you blast it and before you paint/powder coat it.

The airbox and tank both look like they'll clean up real nice and the
engine looks complete. UFO is the only company selling the correct
neon Red Plastic, but you have to deal with them directly to get it.
The only tough to find replacement part will be the seat cover. As
far as I know, nobody is selling a color correct cover with the OE
graphics.

Look forward to the updates.

Oh, if you want your pictures to download (vs the links), click on the
"share" button, then click on the "IMG" selection.
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