Mentally and physically exhausted

[The Baron]

Originally Posted by DRGSin393

With all due respect, BV, it sounds more like arrogance vs competitiveness. I walked a fine line myself back in the cave days. Its refreshing to see my 12 yr old pancake someone, reach out a hand to help them up then turn around and pancake them the very next play. Much to the chagrin of the coaches, I might add. I told him Id take care of the coaches should they decide to make an issue out of it and explained that the gesture showed that you respected that player for being out there and giving it his all. And in return you earned his respect for the sportsmanship you displayed. It was nice to see that by the end of the season, that little gesture was contagious on the defensive squad and opposing parents would compliment them from the sidelines.

Sorry about the Jack!

Absolutely true. I was basically unstoppable and it went to my head, much like James Stewart when he was on 125's. I went from being competitive to downright obsessed and that was my downfall. Even during practices I refused to allow anyone to get the better of me. This is why I said that a boy needs to learn humility. I spent most of my school years doing nothing but training for a future that I would later throw in the garbage because I took myself and what i was doing too seriously.

Some people NEED results because they have given up everything else for results. That is why I get so upset when i see Mini dads pushing their kids, ruining the fun and making it a job.

[Imahoot393]

Originally Posted by Baron Von B

Absolutely true. I was basically unstoppable and it went to my head, much like James Stewart when he was on 125's. I went from being competitive to downright obsessed and that was my downfall. Even during practices I refused to allow anyone to get the better of me. This is why I said that a boy needs to learn humility. I spent most of my school years doing nothing but training for a future that I would later throw in the garbage because I took myself and what i was doing too seriously.

Some people NEED results because they have given up everything else for results. That is why I get so upset when i see Mini dads pushing their kids, ruining the fun and making it a job.

Pretty cool that you are able to see it instead of passing that along to your own children. It is hard to self reflect and change but obviously you have. Congrats on that one.

It is hard when you get so frustrated with your children and want them to do well. However, in my parenting I have learned that we are here to guide them and teach them from right and wrong. Then they get older and have to try things on their own adn you can only hope that they have grasped a few things that you taught them along the way. Of course, we are also here to pick up the pieces and help them try again.

[mxmama393]

Originally Posted by DRGSin393

Its refreshing to see my 12 yr old pancake someone, reach out a hand to help them up then turn around and pancake them the very next play.

How do you pancake someone? Sorry. Maybe its obvious but I am missing it

[Keetoman393]

I like Ricky Bobby's approach. "If you aint first, your last".

Honestly though, I think after winning a first place trophy in his first race, it was a let down to him to not get it again. He will learn in due time that you can't always win.

To Pancake someone is to knock them to the ground.

[mxmama393]

Originally Posted by Keetoman393

I like Ricky Bobby's approach. "If you aint first, your last".

Honestly though, I think after winning a first place trophy in his first race, it was a let down to him to not get it again. He will learn in due time that you can't always win.

To Pancake someone is to knock them to the ground.

Well my son feels like Ricky Bobby and since his first race was such a big win, your right it was a blow.

Ok pancake...knock them to the ground... all I could imagine is patty cake

[911_Racing_Dad]

Yes we had a similar issue. My son is ultra competative and he was all about winning. When he did not get a trophy for his first few races it bothered him because so many of his friends were winning. We agreed that racing should be about fun for him rather than a prize. He would laugh when I got excited about a new unique trophy even when it was for less than a podium. This took the pressure off him becuase he made Dad happy no matter what size trophy he brought me. For example, at the very last race to be held at the legendary Kenworthy's he got taken out in moto 1 and battled back from last to get a top 10 and then finished 2nd in moto 2 which gave him like 5th overall. He had won almost every race that year so he laughed at me as we left the track after waiting for an hour for a little trophy becuase it was so small but to this day it is one our favorite trophies becuase of the expereience. He remembers the holeshot in moto 2 at an amazing event and I remember the amazing battle from the back in moto 1 and waiting in line with my boy for one of the last trophies ever handed out at Kenworthy. I guess what I am trying to say is the trophy is just a piece of plastic but the memories attached to it are for life. At your sons age he will not understand that but one day he will. We put labels on the bottom of every trophy with the date, race and notes about the event. As the trophies stack up it was nice to be able to remember.

Now that our racing is over I appreciate each one more and more. Have fun and help him enjoy every race, every trophy and even every fall.

Originally Posted by mxmama

I had a question about that.... How did you come about doing this? What gave you the idea? Was it because you had the same issue as me or did you worry he would focus on the number?

This is interesting, I just cant imagine saying this to my son....Although I have a good reason, I think I have to take your advice here too.

I can remind Jude of this too.....

When Jude came home with his First race 1st place trophy, he begged and begged to take it to school... finally I took it down off the shelf and said,

"Jude, this is my MOST favorite thing in this whole house that is not living, can you please take very special care of it. Its VERY important to me, OK?"

He promised to guard it with is life....

Well he brought it home BROKEN! You know what he told me when he gave it back to me....

"Mom, don't worry I'll just win another one for you"


cocky little one!

[mxmama393]

Originally Posted by 911_Racing_Dad

Yes we had a similar issue. My son is ultra competative and he was all about winning. When he did not get a trophy for his first few races it bothered him because so many of his friends were winning. We agreed that racing should be about fun for him rather than a prize. He would laugh when I got excited about a new unique trophy even when it was for less than a podium. This took the pressure off him becuase he made Dad happy no matter what size trophy he brought me. For example, at the very last race to be held at the legendary Kenworthy's he got taken out in moto 1 and battled back from last to get a top 10 and then finished 2nd in moto 2 which gave him like 5th overall. He had won almost every race that year so he laughed at me as we left the track after waiting for an hour for a little trophy becuase it was so small but to this day it is one our favorite trophies becuase of the expereience. He remembers the holeshot in moto 2 at an amazing event and I remember the amazing battle from the back in moto 1 and waiting in line with my boy for one of the last trophies ever handed out at Kenworthy. I guess what I am trying to say is the trophy is just a piece of plastic but the memories attached to it are for life. At your sons age he will not understand that but one day he will. We put labels on the bottom of every trophy with the date, race and notes about the event. As the trophies stack up it was nice to be able to remember.

Now that our racing is over I appreciate each one more and more. Have fun and help him enjoy every race, every trophy and even every fall.

Wow .... Good stories!

I think I will do the same thing about the notes too, thats a great idea! Really nice to hear how you reflect on those times together. Thanks for sharing that

[DRGSin393]

Originally Posted by mxmama

How do you pancake someone? Sorry. Maybe its obvious but I am missing it

A pancake is when you hit someone so hard their feet come off the ground and they "flat land" on their butt or back.

[mxmama393]

Hats off to you for raising your boys right Doc!

I hope never get "pancaked"

[DRGSin393]

Originally Posted by mxmama

Hats off to you for raising your boys right Doc!

I hope never get "pancaked"

LOL..Thank you.. Now my idea of getting pancaked is quite different...sitting at the table trying to reach the syrup over a tall stack.

[mxmama393]

I'm just glad y'all cleared that up for me cause all I kept imagining was boys playing patty cake, and I knew that couldn't be right

[triplendo]

I think all kids at that age pout when things dont go their way. It's important for them to learn how to act when things dont go the way they want. Keep up the positive influence. It should be more important to have fun and spend time with the family than it is to always win. JMO