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Big Red 05-14-2009 01:43 PM

250 or 450?
 
Hey fellas/ladies....

Had a prior post looking for input on the CRF 250 X. Now I'm starting to wonder if a 250 is the way to go. I don't doubt that it can handle my tail...I just figure why not get the bigger bike if I can find a relatively close deal price wise.

It's no secret that when searching through Craigslist or Ebay you often see 450's priced the same as 250's. The only difference is usually the year.

I'm a good sized boy so I definately want somethin to haul me around the trails, through the mud and over the hills without stressing the bike to much.

6'4" and 215 lbs. Give me some thoughts here folks!!

I am definately looking for a 4-stroke....not so picky as to whether it a trail set up or an MX set up per say....just want an good bike that treat me right!

DRGSin393 05-14-2009 01:52 PM

Def a 450 for your size, now you have to pick a color!

Woody_393 05-14-2009 02:26 PM

I can tell you that at the 200+ category the 450 is the only option for me. The 250f's just don't have enough power. The 450 has it in spades.

Big Red 05-14-2009 04:03 PM

I see....I see. You holding to that statement when I tell you that I haven't had much seat time on the dirt? I'm very comfortable on the street but the dirt and I just haven't had a bunch of time together.

char393 05-14-2009 04:07 PM

I think you'd be flogging a 250. If you have any doubts, when it's time let me know and you can ride my 250f.

Just saw this on another site, somewhere in Mississippi ...

2007 CRF450 $2400 call for more info. 601-425-2484 ask for walt
kevinwseamans@live.com

Seems like a screamin deal. Must be a dealership, he has several units listed.

Woody_393 05-14-2009 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 582444)
I see....I see. You holding to that statement when I tell you that I haven't had much seat time on the dirt? I'm very comfortable on the street but the dirt and I just haven't had a bunch of time together.

Yes, I'll hold to that statement. Unless you want to upgrade shortly after you get the 250F.

Big Red 05-14-2009 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody_393 (Post 582446)
Yes, I'll hold to that statement. Unless you want to upgrade shortly after you get the 250F.

No, no and Hell's no. As a former Motorcycles salesman, I would tell people all the time, "Get what you want now because if you don't you'll be wanting to upgrade or wishing you had in six months"

The only thing I've got going for me if I get a 450 is the fact that I really don't enjoy pain :hide ...so I let common sense prevail most of the time when I was riding my YZ 400 F. I probably played it a little safer than I needed to but I'm 29 and Haven't had a broken bone yet! I will say though, I may be a little more prone to push myself this time around as I want to be able to enjoy myself while riding and the truth is.....you're gonna fall off. Part of the Sport!

Thanks for the input guys.....I still got plenty of time to "chew the cud" on this subject but I'm kinda agreeing....a 250 might be a little over worked with my Gi-normous butt on it!

Woody_393 05-14-2009 05:26 PM

I think that's the right choice.

tchui 05-15-2009 03:39 AM

char i think hes a trainer (mx school) not a dealer (or both!)

Big Red 05-15-2009 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tchui (Post 582478)
char i think hes a trainer (mx school) not a dealer (or both!)

Do what?

f4stunter 05-15-2009 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 582480)
Do what?

He's replying to char's post a few posts up. That walt guy also posted several bikes on one of our local forums. Some good deals.

Big Red 05-16-2009 02:08 AM

Not sure if anyone is still viewing this thread...but here is a more detailed question.

I've pretty much made my mind up on the bigger bike. Now there are more options to consider though.

1) Do I go straight to 450 or should I consider 400's, 426's and 450's? (this is mainly a Yamaha question)

2) If I end up going 450, should I opt for a more trail oriented bike like a 450X or the WR450? (would a 450R be as good for trail riding?)

3)If I "do" opt for one of these bikes, will they still be ok for the occasional rip on/around an MX track (gearing and suspension wise)

I'm thinking that most of my rides will be open field/pasture or national forest riding.

Let me know what you guys think.

Freak 05-16-2009 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 582522)
Not sure if anyone is still viewing this thread...but here is a more detailed question.

I've pretty much made my mind up on the bigger bike. Now there are more options to consider though.

1) Do I go straight to 450 or should I consider 400's, 426's and 450's? (this is mainly a Yamaha question)

2) If I end up going 450, should I opt for a more trail oriented bike like a 450X or the WR450? (would a 450R be as good for trail riding?)

3)If I "do" opt for one of these bikes, will they still be ok for the occasional rip on/around an MX track (gearing and suspension wise)

I'm thinking that most of my rides will be open field/pasture or national forest riding.

Let me know what you guys think.


Question #1 If you can find a decent 426, go for it. I'm a Honda guy, but yamaha made a killer 426.

#2 The WR and the X are both great trail bikes IMO. The R is a full blown MX bike and is much lighter than the other two. Trail riding would not be a problem for any of them, cept for the gas tank on the R (very small)

#3 Yes. As you said "most of my rides will be open field/pasture" I would say WR/X is more what your looking for.

That's my 1/2 peso.

Timmy 2 Trak 05-16-2009 10:40 AM

Can WR's and X's be made street legal there in Tx.? And Natl. Forests, sounds like a street legal Suz. DRZ 400 with some mods could be the ticket for you. That is unless you absolutely hate Suzuki's.

Big Red 05-16-2009 01:38 PM

I'm not interested in riding on the street. If that were the case, I'd just buy another street bike! I've got an F250 for hauling so riding it on the street isn't on the agenda.

As for the wieght, I haven't looked at the exact numbers but the only difference is gonna be the starter, lights, some addt wiring and the extra fuel capacity...right? I'm no pro so I don't think I'd be able to tell the difference anyway. And, as previously stated, I'm a big boy so the extra wieght probably isn't really gonna bother me.

My first dirt bike experience was at Splendora and I was riding a '89 XR650. If I got around on that panzer, I should be ok with a WR or an X!

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Macho393 05-16-2009 01:53 PM

yz250f, I know plenty of guys who are your size and ride the poo out of them. Why have a bike you are afraid of?

you can always sell a 250f ...the 450's are everywhere. My 2 cents

Freak 05-16-2009 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Red (Post 582545)
And, as previously stated, I'm a big boy so the extra wieght probably isn't really gonna bother me.

.

I'm a big boy too and I can tell you when you hop on the X, you will be able to tell right away.

kdx220 05-17-2009 01:26 AM

I would recommend taking a look at KTM bikes in your range. Their 400, 450 & 530 are absolutely fantastic bikes.

Big Red 05-17-2009 07:12 PM

Yeah, I thought about that but the used racket doesn't have a lot of choices as far as the KTM's are concerned. I like the 400 but I have only found one used and that was on ebay and half way across the country.

And Macho, I hear what you're sreamin'. I thought about that but getting the wife to agree on getting another dirt bike was tough enough. To try and turn around and flip one in 6 months to a year's time might get me the "ugly eye"! Besides, I've had the YZ 400 and KX 250 so it won't be my first time on a powerhouse. Just gotta know your limits and build that comfort level. Common Sense goes a long way in minimizing risk.

Dutch 05-17-2009 10:31 PM

A crf250r can do hills and mountians. but go Figure im about 165~160. depending if i remembered to take a dump, i pushed my 250 pretty hard, over rocks or forest floor.

A 250 can do it, for me, but i have to keep my speed up,

I havent riden a 450. the only thing i have heard is the weight. I would realy not want not make it up half way up a hill have have to try and flip it around, but im sure it's not that much more heavy.

I guess go with the 4zy's if you want to have it easy with the power.


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