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Old 12-19-2008, 02:22 PM
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Hey, I am extremely new to wheelies and stink at them. I do enduro type trails on a KTM 105 sx with loosened suspension to conform to trail riding. It is really hard for me to pull a wheelie when needed on trails to get over obstacles. what would be a good way to learn how to do a small bout 45 degree angle wheelie. i read a article in Dirt Rider and said to stnad up and with a quick motion push down on the front forks and when they rebound put on the power, but when i do it i can't control it very well and it knocks me right back down into the seat and therefore cant continue the wheelie. Does anyone have any tips on this.
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Old 12-19-2008, 09:50 PM
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I ride a mix of motocross and cross country. When riding enduro trails you should be standing most of the time anyway. Even on a 105 you should have enough power to pull the front wheel up for an obstacle if you are in a low enough gear. Use the clutch and make sure you carry enough speed to be in the power band. I am not a 2-stroke rider but those are my thoughts. It is possible that you just need to be more aggressive.
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:17 PM
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IMO the most important thing is balance, timing and the position your leaning. You dont want to lean too far forward or you will have trouble getting the front end up and definetly dont lean too far back, you know what can happen there. When you push down and compress the front shocks make sure your in your power band and give it steady but quick throttle and pull up as it decompresses. It has to be timed just right. Second or third gear is good to start on with a two stroke. Body position and throttle are key to a good wheelie. Once your up give it more to stay up and less to come down. First gear has too much torque, too short, and hard to control. Make sure you are practicing this in an area that has little or no obstacles. Just keep trying and you will get the hang of it and will be able to wheelie anything on two wheels.
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Old 12-19-2008, 11:34 PM
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Good pointers here. Practice....and lots of it. I learned how to wheelie while standing up and have transitioned that to sitting down. Also, learning them while your moving (not from a dead stop) will boost your confidence and helps to understand where the "balance point" is. As far getting over obsticles (rocks, roots etc etc), find a rail road tie or something around that height. Roll up to it, get the front end up and try to "kiss" the obstacle with the front tire. Start off slow and use different body positions to see what best suits you. Good luck, hope this helps.

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Good pointers here. Practice....and lots of it. I learned how to wheelie while standing up and have transitioned that to sitting down. Also, learning them while your moving (not from a dead stop) will boost your confidence and helps to understand where the "balance point" is. As far getting over obsticles (rocks, roots etc etc), find a rail road tie or something around that height. Roll up to it, get the front end up and try to "kiss" the obstacle with the front tire. Start off slow and use different body positions to see what best suits you. Good luck, hope this helps.

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mad dog good tips aye.... sittin down is sickk dosent take as much effort if ur lazy aye how do u do slow whellies??
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Old 12-20-2008, 08:32 AM
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yea i agree. I been trying to do it in second gear at the base of the power band. my uncle rides enduro and is like #1-5 in Texas and he teaches me everythinng. I might be goin riding tuesday and wednesday. so yea i going to get some ride time. =)
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Old 01-02-2009, 12:00 PM
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Well as usual it rained the days i was going to go dirt biking. I have not gone riding since that opertunity. I am hoping to just get some ride time at a small track near my house saturday.
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wheelies are over rated Just pin it and you will have no problem getting over that log.
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Old 01-10-2009, 03:43 PM
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lol i wish!


this is me when i see a log and dont know how to get over it.

this is me getting over it

this is me when i am on the ground on the other side of the log.
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this drill helps you get overcome the knocks me right back down into the seat thing.

here is how i practiced.

1. get a small piece of level ground (one that you can tear up )
2. get a 6x6 log or wood post.
3. practice the pop the clutch movement on your bike. (
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4. then pop the clutch so you can get the front tire over the log if done right you should be able to get over the post.
5. move to larger and larger posts,logs till you get the hand of it.
6. when it is all said and done you will be a bit more confident in the feel...

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i ride a yz 125 so i feel your pain learning on a two stroke.

hope this helps
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Old 04-26-2009, 06:25 PM
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ON a two stroke its kinda easy to get that tire up. just be careful to not bring it back to far. to get it over obstacles you just got roll on that throttle and pull on the bars that tire will get up. I ride a CR250 got a lil more power but used to ride an 80 and if you roll that throttle it will get up. Just dont be like me and run down a gravel road aroun 70 and jerk a wheelie up with a bad rear tire. Now ive been out for about a month with a bad knee with a big scar lol. anyways just practice in a field like other have said and you will get the hang of it. Honestly I can only get good wheelies on my 250 in 4th and 5th gear. 2nd and 3rd seem to wrap out to quick for me.lol just be careful and take it easy at first. good luck
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Old 04-26-2009, 07:25 PM
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i dont have any problems on the wheelie part (yz450f) it is when that rear tire passes over the obstical that causes the rear to go airborne.
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you can either pop the clutch wich is reving the bike with the clutch in and then let the clutch just fly out you can either stand or sit for wheelies i found it better to stand and it is easyer that way i ride a 2 stroke so the power band helps me i just sit back and and get it toward the power band so that when i grad the trottle it lifts it up without doing much but getting over obsticles u definatly want to stand cause ive bin throughn off acouple times going over obsticles sitting
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Old 07-20-2009, 09:38 AM
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good tips guy thanks. but the thing is in texas it is 105 everyday.
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if you have the bike in the power band, a sitting bounce should work good for you. personally i don't feel near as stable in a standing wheelie. force it down, throttle it up.
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