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Old 07-12-2006, 04:56 PM
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okay. so at the track i like going to there is a fairly short double and i can get far enough to land in the middle of the two jumps but i am a little scared of jumping the full double. i know that confidence is a big part of this but is have laid my little 80 down a couple times in tight corners so ya. and what is the best way to jump a double. and just for anyone that wants to know, i am bottoming out my suspension when i jump too.
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Old 07-12-2006, 05:04 PM
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Well, to make it a lot easier on you. You want to go get your suspension set up. That makes a HUGE difference! I remember before I had my 85 set up, i was scared to hit 10 foot doubles but now that I have it set up i'm hitting 65-75 foot tables, 50 foot doubles and everything.

But if you can't get it set up, practice seat bouncing the suspension on the jump. You can go to transworldmotocross.com and search "seat bouncing" and you'll get some great stuff . To put it simple, a seatbounce is when you sit down on the face of a jump, prealoading the suspension than standing up before you reach the verry lip, than it will give you better trajectory and will shoot you farther and higher. But you'll have to muscle the bike back down, for it will give you what some people call a "boner air" where your nose will go almoast straight up. to fix this, you could muscle it down like i said. or you can grab the clutch, and tap the rear break. But DO NOT hold it, or else you'll endo.

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Old 07-12-2006, 05:11 PM
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well schwen, i have a new thread about presetting my suspension so any tips would be greatly appreciated. and the double isn't that long. from the peak of one to the peak of the other one is probably about 10 ft so what gear would be best
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Old 07-12-2006, 05:13 PM
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oh and we are going to xtreme raceways tomorrow and i am psyched for that woooooooooooo
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Old 07-12-2006, 05:22 PM
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Probably, if it was an 85cc 2-stroke, you could get it in 2nd gear.
Seeings how I hit a 9 foot gap on a minibicycle
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Old 07-12-2006, 06:11 PM
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Probably, if it was an 85cc 2-stroke, you could get it in 2nd gear.
Seeings how I hit a 9 foot gap on a minibicycle
WWWHAAATT?!?!?! did you come down from a hill cuz i have done that on a bmx and i had a long run at it. and i cleared the landing ramp and bent my handlebars.
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Old 07-12-2006, 06:20 PM
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umm. it was sorta a downhill. but it was on pavement.
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Old 07-12-2006, 06:55 PM
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dont worry about seat bouncing, you dont really need to learn that yet, especially for a 10 foot double, just get into second gear(if your runnning out of revs, and you have a long enough run up to it, hit 3rd) in the run up to it, stay fairly centred in the bike, with your wieght slightly to the rear, arms and knees bent and then pin it, if you dont fe'll comfortable doing it all right away, jump a little at a time, creeping farther and farther each time, then once you feel your close enough, just go for it, have fun tomorrow and be safe
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Old 07-12-2006, 09:03 PM
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Find another rider who is clearing the jump you want to clear and pace them. Easiest way to figure out how much speed and what gear you need to be in, IMO.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:51 AM
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I second what char said. Just follow someone over it that's doing it already.
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Old 07-13-2006, 08:28 AM
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You know, the following someone over the jump thing works great. But for me, I always tend to tell someone I am going to follow them, but normally I always know what it's going to take to jump it...just want to be sure I am right. Then I won't jump it when they are around, I normally wait until I am all alone and then hit it...less chance of balling someone else up with me.

Anyway, I would have to agree that seat bouncing is not needed with a 10' double....Just keep centered on your bike, and twist the throttle...you will shoot right over it.
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:10 AM
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Find another rider who is clearing the jump you want to clear and pace them. Easiest way to figure out how much speed and what gear you need to be in, IMO.
Even if you don't follow them, I will sit and watch them and thentalk about what gear and how much speed I need.

This coming from the one who chickened out on following Bates over a double at Mesquite when Woody and a few others were. I wasn't ready at the time but I am now! When we going to Mesquite again?
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Old 07-13-2006, 10:59 AM
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Just to add my 2 cents worth. Seat bouncing is an advanced technique that will require you to reposition yourself in a specific manner. You'd need to feel comfortable moving around on the bike, before you try and seat bounce, otherwise you'll end up in a face plant. ie...can you shift your body weight while youre in the air, can you brake tap or shift gears in the air. Besides following someone over the jump, which is the way I try to do it....right MOTOMAN? , you can find a table top to jump thats more than 10 ft long and determine what gear and speed youre hitting it with in order to go the distance. If the double is out of a turn hit the table from out of a turn, if the double has a long stretch leading up to it, do the same with the table. Just try to keep all the variables similar.
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Old 07-13-2006, 11:16 AM
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Besides following someone over the jump, which is the way I try to do it....right MOTOMAN?
Hmmm....I couldn't tell you....yet.
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Old 07-13-2006, 12:32 PM
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Definitely helps if you let the person you're wanting to follow know. It would have taken me a while to make the second step at Splendora had Jedi not let me follow him. Not only does it give you an idea of the speed it'll take, but for me, just gives me a bit more confidence.

I even have video...ha...didn't think I'd ever use this clip..
DOUBLE

*let me know if the link doesn't work.

I look like a total spode, but I'm having fun anyway.
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Old 07-13-2006, 12:48 PM
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I wasnt there but Im willing to bet you had a big smile on your face! Nice job.
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Old 07-13-2006, 02:49 PM
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Ha Char, for a spode you sure ride good

Now how come I've never seen that? It really was pretty impressive. I've jumped that double and I didn't think it was that long even. that really is pretty impressive. Hopefully this fall I can do it again.
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:04 PM
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OH Oh ohhhh!!! Really Woody? There's a chance you might be there? AWESOME!
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:14 PM
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OH Oh ohhhh!!! Really Woody? There's a chance you might be there? AWESOME!
I concur....I hope you can make it Woody!!!!!
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Old 07-13-2006, 03:28 PM
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I hope to be there. I'm hoping I have enough sky miles to fly down. Screw the driving gig, it's just too long/far, though it is fun, and well, as I see it if you have them use them (the sky miles that is).

I'm hoping to bring one of my boys with me as well.
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