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Old 01-17-2008, 04:52 PM
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After hitting the track for the first time a couple of weeks ago I noticed in corners that were 180's I was in first gear. Should I be in second and slipping the clutch more or is 1st a common thing on a 125?
Pretty generic question. It depends on whether or not it is a 1st, 2nd or third gear corner. If it was just your first time on a track quite simply you need to spend more time on the track, the skill will come with experience. Once you get more comfortable then you can be coached on technique.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:53 PM
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Cool, I just thought I should never be in first gear on a track. I just never hear anyone say drop it down into first.
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Old 01-17-2008, 08:55 PM
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What gear do you start on the gate in?
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I almost never give riding advice. like Dhi I might suggest some books. if i wanted to get better at cornering and wanted a simple paragraph long lesson, and I found myself here on this thread, I would memorize everything that 3rdrut said.

Then I would go out and do figure 8's with varying terrain and distances between the apexes, until I was sweating hard. I would do it at the beginning of each track day, and at the end.
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For 100 bucks or so you can go to a riding school or a coaching clinic and learn all you need to practice. Ask around and find out who has a good name as a teacher, some guy's only want your money, a good coach will make you do it over and over till you start to get it right, then you go away and practice it, and preety soon you will be railing berms and jumping big with confidence. I make my boy's do a minimun of 2 a year because they do forget things or they develop bad habbits that need to be corrected. I can stand there after they have done another coaching session and see the differance straight away, faster and smoother
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:21 AM
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What gear do you start on the gate in?
Always 1st.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:23 AM
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Cool, I just thought I should never be in first gear on a track. I just never hear anyone say drop it down into first.
I mean once you get going off the starting line.
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Old 01-18-2008, 09:46 AM
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MX bikes should never be in 1st gear on the track IMHO. The possibility of hitting nuetral is too great and could result in a loss of control.

125's are a whole different animal when it comes to throttle and clutch control. You should control the power with the clutch more than the throttle. 125's rarely have any good roll on power so you want to work on getting the throttle open and the engine revving before you are ready to get back ont he power and then working the clutch to drive you out of corners.

Body positioning is the first thing that you should work on though. Sit far forward with your butt on the outside edge of the seat, elbows up, head over the bars, inside leg straight forward not out, weighting the outside peg and pushing against the shroud with your outside knee.

You should brake before the turn, then just as you are getting ready to enter the turn, start leaning the bike while you are standing, then sit down after the bike is getting leaned over. This will help get you ont he outside edge of the seat. Make extra effort to sit far forward, even farther forward than you think is necessary. At first sitting real far forward will feel unnatural but that's where you should be otherwise the front end won't be weighted enough and may push on you.

Look forward and choose good lines. 125's work much better when the rider picks a smooth flowing line so as to not lose momentum. Think outside lines carried with speed over tighter inside lines that will lead to a bogging motor. Smoothness is key on a 125 because they simply don't have the torque to make up for rider error.

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1. Correct body positioning
2. Smooth flowing lines
3. Clutch over throttle
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Old 01-20-2008, 08:13 AM
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That's what I'm looking for. Thank you for posting that. After yesterday doing so trail riding I'm learning to control the power with the clutch. There really isn't any roll on the throttle. It's pull in the clutch rev it to the desired area to be in the power band and release the clutch slow to fling you forward out of the corner. I also learned some from watching RC ride one of his older 2 stroke 250's over on racerxfilms.com He would rev it a lot to keep it in the power band and how smooth he takes corners in amazing.
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pretty basic stuff to think about is this. Don't worry too much about what the back end of the bike is doing. MAKE SURE TO KEEP THE FRONT WHEEL POINTED WHERE YOU WANT TO GO!!

If you get up high on the tank, you will be close to the front fork/wheel so if the back end gets sloppy, you won't be affected by it as much as if you were riding the middle or back of the seat.

I actually started on a street bike, an R1 so my initial venture into the sport was on the pavement but what I learned still applies to dirt. On the dirt, though everything is more exaggerated and forgiving.

when the rear wheel slides out maintain the front in the direction that you want to go ant the rear will slip into line with it.

I never did get into the sticking your foot out though. I think I am the only only one at the track going around turns with both feet on the pegs.

Lastly weight the outside peg! This will transfer more of your weight to the rear wheel and help it bite into the dirt more.

Good luck.
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