Ankle support

[Keetoman393]

Originally Posted by Baron Von B

Yuck! Thanks for my daily gross-out!

Sorry bro.

[Keetoman393]

Originally Posted by char393

This has been a great thread to follow.

Keeto, as we talked about, I wonder if different boots would have prevented your injury. Along the same lines though, I wonder if different boots would have protected your ankle as intended, but then transferred that force further up your leg? That could have been very bad.

I don't know? I also don't want to be a test dummy! I will admit though, the Tech 6 boot offers no ankle support at all.

[crfjedi393]

Originally Posted by Keetoman393

in all reality, boots DO NOT prevent injuries.

Oh yes they do. You're my good friend and I'm not here to argue with you. But I can guarantee you that Clint's SG-10's as well as my Sidi Force's have prevented injury. No question about it.
On the flip side, I will readily admit that NO boot can prevent ALL injuries.

[Keetoman393]

Originally Posted by crfjedi393

On the flip side, I will readily admit that NO boot can prevent ALL injuries.

That's what I meant. It WILL NOT prevent you from injury, just decrease the risk.

[mxmama393]

I got this off the site for the sidi crossfire TA


Dual Flex System The key feature in the Sidi Crossfire boot is the Dual Flex system, which allows for easy movement forward and backward but is extremely strong side to side giving the rider the finest in ankle protection and long lasting comfort.



The "easy movement forward and backward" is what we dont want.

When he (hubby) read that he cringed. His foot basically pointed too far up/forward.

does anyone think that the Oxtar is better in that specific area?

Or maybe explain to me better how to search

[Woody_393]

All of them will stop you at some point (the hinged boots that is). The key is where they will stop you.

I have tried on the oxtars and I'll be honest, they were NOT confortable compared to other boots I've worn.

I agree Alpinestar is over rated. I won't buy another pair.

One of the boots that has not been talked about and offers probably the best/complete protection is the Scott Genius boot (my next boot). They ARE SPENDY ($500) but I believe they offer the best protection.

SCOTT > Genius MX Boot

Take a gander at that bad boy, and if you can stomach the price, those should be the ticket.

[Woody_393]

Oh, and the official Genius web site.

SCOTT > Global > Motorsport > Offroad > Genius Boot

[The Baron]

No offense, but hubby needs to learn where to keep his toes. Had he not landed with his toes on the pegs this may not have happened. I thought we had a discussion about this previously on where to have your feet when landing.

[DRGSin393]

Heres my take on the comfort issue with the Oxtars...for all its worth. Comfort where? In the pits walking around? Yes, theyre stiff, I admit. When I put them on, my ankle is locked in place it doesnt rotate, or go side to side.. There is some movement up and down but not very much...just as intended. On the bike that "tightness" disappears. It offers all the flexibility I need to ride without noticing any hindrance. Again, all I'll say is that I dont wear ankle braces with this boot and I havent had to. As far as the Scotts are concerned we need a follow up eval by the one guy that bought a pair. Do they still make the Sidi Force, or is the cross fire the top of the line Sidi?

[mxmama393]

Originally Posted by Baron Von B

No offense but hubby needs to learn where to keep his toes. Had he not landed with his toes in the pegs this may not have happened.

Well sometimes is a hard thing to do in a seconds notice.... It was a bad landing on that stupid jump with NO landing. He chose a bad line I think.
I don't know if he was listening to me (since thats rare) but I have been quoting him Gary Semics, and thats what semics preaches, landing on the balls of your feet. One reason is for the "extra pivot point".

Now we all know we don't want to use our ankles to aid in suspension!

Hubby is considering widening his foot peg an inch or so too. I am sure this will give him a bit more ankle stability and security.

[DRGSin393]

Thats why I bought the fastway pegs...[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]theyre so wide some people dont like them but personally, I wouldnt mind platforms if it meant more ankle stability. Im still trying to retrofit HD floorboards on my YZ.

[mxmama393]

how much wider are they than stock? Guess if you have to

[mxmama393]

Originally Posted by Woody_393

All of them will stop you at some point (the hinged boots that is). The key is where they will stop you.

I have tried on the oxtars and I'll be honest, they were NOT confortable compared to other boots I've worn.

I agree Alpinestar is over rated. I won't buy another pair.

One of the boots that has not been talked about and offers probably the best/complete protection is the Scott Genius boot (my next boot). They ARE SPENDY ($500) but I believe they offer the best protection.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Take a gander at that bad boy, and if you can stomach the price, those should be the ticket.

THOSE BOOTS ARE B-E-A-U-T-I-F-U-L !!!!!!

[DRGSin393]

I shouldve known! They DO look like theyre the most protective boot out there. From what I understand the comfort is pretty good also.

[mxmama393]

"The Genius MX Boot allows movement without compromising rigidity and strength. The hinge design and Hytrel® material allow the necessary foot articulation required by a rider, while simultaneously limiting ankle motion. Under excessive loads the Genius limits flex, discouraging fractures and ligament strains"


So far thats what we need to hear....$$$$$$$$$$$
anyone want to donate

[The Baron]

Fastway pegs have a very wide platform and can help prevent accidently landing with your feet in the wrong place. One thing that can also help is making sure to squeeze the bike between his heels to keep his feet from moving around too much in the air.

This is another reason why I don't like the Tech 10 botts. The soles just aren't stiff enough and allow way too much movement. I've heard of guys breaking their feet when they land hand even though they landed on the arch of their foot. The sole actually flexed enough to allow the foot to basically bend around the peg. That's no good!

Those Genius boots are kick butt, although I wish they came in different colors.

[pragmatic393]

Originally Posted by char393

This has been a great thread to follow.

Keeto, as we talked about, I wonder if different boots would have prevented your injury. Along the same lines though, I wonder if different boots would have protected your ankle as intended, but then transferred that force further up your leg? That could have been very bad.

Exactly! IMO, with a super stiff boot, the force is transferred straight to your knee, and the Asterisks do very little for rotational force.

Good thread!!

[DRGSin393]

Originally Posted by Baron Von B

Fastway pegs have a very wide platform and can help prevent accidently landing with your feet in the wrong place. One thing that can also help is making sure to squeeze the bike between his heels to keep his feet from moving around too much in the air.

This is another reason why I don't like the Tech 10 botts. The soles just aren't stiff enough and allow way too much movement. I've heard of guys breaking their feet when they land hand even though they landed on the arch of their foot. The sole actually flexed enough to allow the foot to basically bend around the peg. That's no good!

Those Genius boots are kick butt, although I wish they came in different colors.

WOW!! Didnt know that about the Tech 10s! Im with you on the Scotts...Why in the world go with gold?? Leave the gold out and youve got a good looking boot.

[The Baron]

Originally Posted by DRGSin393

WOW!! Didnt know that about the Tech 10s! Im with you on the Scotts...Why in the world go with gold?? Leave the gold out and youve got a good looking boot.

Keep in mind that the soles of the Tech 10's wear very fast also, so the people that this happened to may have been in need of a sole replacement, but still.

[DRGSin393]

On a side note here and one that would require further elaboration by an orthopod...knee vs ankle which would you rather injure. The obvious choice seems to be the ankle. But I learned an interesting fact the other day. We have successfully replaced knees and hips with long term success for each but have yet to perfect the ankle joint replacement. There are some new advancements as we speak but total ankle replacement up to this point has been much less promising. Many people with catastrophic injuries just have their ankle bones fused. Most people would rather lose mobility in their ankle vs their knee, I understand, but if total knee replacement with is an option in the worst case scenarios-shouldnt we be more concerned about our kankles? Just a thought to stimulate conversation.