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Old 06-25-2007, 11:45 AM
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Skip the Oxtars, they don't compare to Sidi Crossfires or Gaerne SG-10's.

After crashing a while back my ankle has been very messed up, so I bought an ankle brace at Walgreens. It's a lace up brace with a couple of straps that wrap around the foot to help with side to side movement.

Here's the brace I got, only mine is black. It seems to work really well, although I had to loosent he straps on my boot, and it can be pretty restrictive, but nothing that you can't get used to.

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Old 06-25-2007, 11:55 AM
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Some boots come with an inner booty that you have to wear. Oxtars are this way. The Gaernes and the Sidis(I believe) are not-just a straight boot tha you put your feet into. I have found that the inner booty helps with ankle stability also since the leather can stretch. I can only speak of the Oxtars, others can chime in on the other brands. My Oxtars limit the up and down range of motion yet still remain flexible enough to walk comfortably. They totally eliminate any side to side motion. After 3+yrs theyre still as tight as day one and have saved my ankles on numerous occasions. The only problem I have is that I cant buckle the upper-most buckle with my asterisks on.(knee braces). The soles are going strong also and thats no easy task considering my Fastway pegs! Look to spend upwards of 400.00 for a good boot. It may seem like alot but trust me, its well worth it. Just last night I was running behind my 4 yr old after taking off his training wheels and I twisted my ankle on a crack of the sidewalk! I would look into the top of the line Sidi's, Oxtar Pros, Gaerne SG-10s and the new Scotts.

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Old 06-25-2007, 11:56 AM
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Skip this evaluation,err opinion..unless of course youve worn all of these boots, then in that case a summary is in order. This ankle brace DOES work well, I used to use it myself. Havent had to since I bought a good pair of boots designed for ankle protection.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:02 PM
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Just last night I was running behind my 4 yr old after taking off his training wheels and I twisted my ankle on a crack of the sidewalk!

LOL... um maybe you ought to not ever take your boots off

Poor guy, what a bummer!
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:06 PM
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LOL... um maybe you ought to not ever take your boots off

Poor guy, what a bummer!
Trust me...Ive thought about that! Actually theres a company making mini MX boots that could pass as shoes/street boots. Mini racers wear them. Anyways, I thought about getting a pair.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:15 PM
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Skip this evaluation,err opinion..unless of course youve worn all of these boots, then in that case a summary is in order. This ankle brace DOES work well, I used to use it myself. Havent had to since I bought a good pair of boots designed for ankle protection.
I have actually. The Oxtars are a good boot but considering that they don't cost too much less than an SG10, I would have to say that the SG10 is a better buy. The SG10 has a hinged design and protects the ankle very well while still being extremely comfortable. The SIDI Crossfires are also very protective to the ankle but not as comfortable as the SG10's IMHO. The Oxtar TCX Pro is a great boot, but the comfort level isn't on par with either one of the other boots and while it may offer good protection, I just think that the other boots have a better overall level of comfort and protection.

Take it or leave it, I suppose. Have you worn all three boots, DRGSin393? I'm also surprised that you say that about the Fastways, because they are normally very easy on boot soles because of their allen head screw design. When I was running those pegs my Tech 8's even held up for a whole season, and we all know how quickly those soles wear!
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:28 PM
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Thanks for the summary, being a little more specific helps. Same protection less comfort. Nope...havent worn all 3 boots thats why I only gave my opinion on the Oxtars.To refresh your memory..." I can only speak of the Oxtars, others can chime in on the other brands." And as far as the Fastways are concerned, they tore up my previous boots alot faster than the stock pegs-therefore I deduced that 3 yrs+ with these soles is pretty good.
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:32 PM
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I hear you, I should have shared a little more instead of just dismissing the Oxtar's alltogether. My bad.
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Every thread about boots (oil, tires, bars, and gear, for that matter) is peppered with posts by members who LOVE their particular brand. So I'll qualify my post with the fact that I've only had experience with the Sidi Flex Force and the Gaerne SG-10's of the boots that have been mentioned. Both boots have extremely pleasing restriction on side-to-side movement. But the upward movement that caused your hubby's injury is very difficult to prevent. My Sidi's have perfect protection from hyper-extension.

A side-view show's the hinge.



Here you can see the stop on the heel of the boot that prevents the hyper-extension.(It has saved me several times)



I have heard that the newer Sidi Crossfires have a strong measure in place to prevent the upward movement that causes ankle injuries but I have not researched this personally. But I certainly will before I buy my next pair of boots.

Doc, can you give us pics to give us an idea how the Oxtars prevent the upward movement? This is a very necessary feature in my opinion! The quick fix is to just keep your feet centered on the pegs before a hard impact. Often easier said than done.
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Whew.... who knew ankle support would be such a HOT topic
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Old 06-25-2007, 12:56 PM
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Jedi... that is GREAT!!!!!

Thanks so much for pointing those features out!!!!

So you would buy those same boots again for over extension protection?

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I hear you, I should have shared a little more instead of just dismissing the Oxtar's alltogether. My bad.
No prb bro! Its all good. Its just that its a rare thing to find someone that has worn all 3 boots out in the field, so to speak...so that kind of evaluation carries alot of weight, at least with me.

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Heres a decent pic of the rear section of the Oxtar. The plastic piece that runs the length of the calf stiffens the backside and theres a stop in the heal piece that prevents the overexttension-if that makes sense. I dont think you can go wrong with any of these 3 as far as ankle protection. At the time I didnt like how the Sidi forces looked, whereas now I like the newly restyled ones. My son's Garnes SG10s are super comfortable for him which kind of scares me. If a boot wears in that softly, does it lose some of its protection? In the end its like Jedi said...its a matter of personal preference and all I know is I no longer have to wear ankle braces with my boots. Ok, they may be a bit more stiffer than the rest but Im not jogging with them.
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I have heard that the newer Sidi Crossfires have a strong measure in place to prevent the upward movement that causes ankle injuries but I have not researched this personally. But I certainly will before I buy my next pair of boots.

Where did you hear this? I am having trouble finding info related to the designs of the boots and what they do.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:19 PM
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I have friends who all wear the same size gear as I do so it makes it easy to swap and compare. I will say this, the SG10's don't have a strap along the back like the Oxtars do. I believe there is an internal stop on the hinge mechanism to prevent over flexion and extension, but don't quote be on that. I'd have to tear mine apart and look.
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:23 PM
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A little on each one of these boots.
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does anyone know where I could find specs about the boots mentioned here like sidi, Oxtar, Gaerne SG-10?


This one is about aplinestars, I know they wernt mentioned ...but its what popped up

"The Tech 10 is Alpinestars’ most technologically advanced MX Boot. Its key features include:

- External spine that prevents hyper extension of the Achilles tendon
- One layer sole that is replaceable and includes a sole insert, which is also replaceable.
- Lower part of boot is all one piece and is comprised of five different compounds to provide the rider with optimal flexibility and protection.
- Internal ankle brace with torsion bar system that allows lateral movement of the ankle, which helps prevent knee injuries"


I will let u know if I find out more info
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does anyone know where I could find specs about the boots mentioned here like sidi, Oxtar, Gaerne SG-10?


This one is about aplinestars, I know they wernt mentioned ...but its what popped up

"The Tech 10 is Alpinestars’ most technologically advanced MX Boot. Its key features include:

- External spine that prevents hyper extension of the Achilles tendon
- One layer sole that is replaceable and includes a sole insert, which is also replaceable.
- Lower part of boot is all one piece and is comprised of five different compounds to provide the rider with optimal flexibility and protection.
- Internal ankle brace with torsion bar system that allows lateral movement of the ankle, which helps prevent knee injuries"


I will let u know if I find out more info

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A little on each one of these boots.


Cool gonna check them out now!
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:31 PM
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Here's a better spot for the SIDI's

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