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Old 10-18-2003, 11:35 AM
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I have a CRF 230, and I'm tired of hearing how that it is slow and can't win a race. I never was in a real race because the week before the race I broke my arm, but I race my friends and thing like that. I beat KX 100s, CR 85s, and KX 125s. I just wanted to see if anybody ever raced a CRF230 and what they think about every internet site talking **** on how slow the bike is.
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Old 10-19-2003, 02:04 AM
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Hmmm... I wouldn't think the bike would be slow?? Especially if you remove the baffle etc. I'm guessing you would have to race in the 125 class, and I would think the suspension would be the weakest link, not the motor... but that all depends on how choked up it is. I can't imagine though that the 230 would even touch the CRF YZF KXF or RM-Z 250's.
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Old 11-14-2003, 10:08 PM
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I know what your talking about. I see sites saying it's slow and has a small frame. Well I can cruise down the rural roads in Michigan at 85(w/my aftermarket parts) or @ 70 bone stock. As for the small frame, it's come in handy on winding trails. I don't think it's slow at all. If you notice in 1st gear theres a point after idle where the engine hits really hard and brings the front wheel up w/ little effort. I think it's jellously because they have to kick start their bike...I've drag raced a few times..I destroyed a 400cc ATV, an XR200 and I tied with a stock CR125, mind you I have a big bore jug, nice exhaust system and the high revving CDI--
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Old 11-15-2003, 06:37 AM
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what do you mean they have to kick start thiers, yours doens' have electric start, you have to kick yours too.
I doubt that your bike will outrun any stock 125.

the reason people talk about your bike like that is becuase it is not a good MX bike. it is heavy and slow and has crappy suspension FOR MX. The bike is an awesome machine for what it was designed for----- a play bike. The bike was never designed to race. it was made to play around in the trails with. it was NEVER intended to jump very much at all.
I am not dogging your bike at all, but just stating that it is severely limited by it's design. Any rider that can keep his/her bike on the pipe would be able to wax the 230 on any mx track. now in tight trails you stand a prety good chance.
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Old 11-15-2003, 08:03 AM
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What are you talking about? My bike doesn't have a kick start on it...it's electric start. What bike did you think I was talking about?(a CRF230 thread) And yes, I tied a bone stock CR125(1999) but not on an MX track, we were out on a long farm road.

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Old 11-15-2003, 08:54 AM
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Hondarider please refrain from cursing in your posts as this is a family site and we dont want any young ones going around and saying to someone a word they got off of ATM, thanks for your support of the site and keep postin and askin questions, just watch the wording.
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Old 11-15-2003, 12:03 PM
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since the top speed of the 450 MX bikes is only 85 i think your top speed is more like 70.
yes, i am sure your bike has the same top speed as a 125, but it's just slower getting there.

and also, i thought the crf's were kick only, i didn't think they would have the added weight of the electric starter, and battery. that just further emphasizes it's lack of performance.

if crusing fire roads and casual trails are your gig, then your bike is perfect for you. the crf is an awesome bike, for what it is made for. i would recommend it over the ttr any day.

and as far as being able to wheelie, i would hope so. the 125's will wheelie in 3rd and 4th all day long.
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Old 11-15-2003, 12:48 PM
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Usually I just read posts but I think this one deserves a response.

Sorry but I dont really even think that a CRF230 could beat a 85 in top speed let alone a 125. I dont want to be a big jerk but according to the dynos at BBR, the 230 makes something like 16 HP, now an 85 makes at the very least 19 HP, the average 125 makes 33 HP, thats a pretty big gap there.

The 230 is a playbike, not an MXer.
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Old 11-15-2003, 03:57 PM
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Daniel J and Yardpro put it best. I've seen a kid race a CRF230 in the 125D class and well it was ok for him to learn MX on but it would NEVER be any bit competitive. Any 125 2 stroke or 250F would romp it. But you should have known that when you bought it. Like everyone else, I'm not trying to put your bike down. I did the same thing, I bought a TTR125L and expected it to be able run with the 80s, you just have to face that it will never happen. Trust me, don't ride a bike for a year and keep trying to convice yourself its a race bike. I did that and have regreted it ever since I got a real race bike. That said, CRF230s will be decent in the D class and will be a blast to put around on. Just don't expect it to walk away from a CR125.
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Old 11-17-2003, 08:50 PM
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I have a CRF230 abd im pretty sure it has 18 hp. Also if you want to race it, i think it races the 100's like the kx.
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Old 11-18-2003, 05:33 AM
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motomax is right. the crf230 is pumping out about 18 HP. the 125's put out about 35 hp. the crf is way heavier than the 125's as well.

the crf230 is an awesome play bike, and great for trails and fire roads. it is a purpose built machine. it is built to be ultra reliable, fun bike. it is not a race bike. i am not dogging it at all. i think out of all bikes in its class it is the best.
it's like comparing a harley to a crotch rocket. they are both sweet, and good at what they are made for. they are just made for different things
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Old 11-27-2003, 02:48 PM
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the crf 230 is about like an xr 200. i think honda just put the crf on the bike to sell more of them, and it is certainly no race bike. i have a friend that has a crf 230 and it climbs hills better than my kx 250.
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Old 11-27-2003, 04:08 PM
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I am gonna respond to this..I don't want this to anyway come off to anyone that I am being a butthole or jerk.

As you regulars know I started on an XR250R..rode it for I am guessing a little over 2 years or so and then got my CR250R which I am now gonna sell(for the reasons most of you know about). I posted a thread I think it was last week or so about the XR4 and everyone told me I would be unhappy with it. So I stopped looking at them. I got to thinking yesterday and I think an XR400R would be just what i am looking for. I would have done better at that Hare Scramble I raced in on Nov. 9th on my XR than I did on my CR. I hear people saying all the time "The XRs are outdated,there slow,there heavy,there no good at MX,there not race bikes and you can't race them. My response is "no the engine isn't a power house,the XRs aren't the lightest bike..DON'T DOG AN XR BECAUSE ITS NOT GOOD AT MX..ITS NOT INTENDED FOR IT..ITS MADE TO RIDE THROUGH WOODS. I am not pointing fingers here at anyone on this site so please don't take it that way. I really do get tired of people putting the XRs down. IMO as long as your riding why the heck does it matter what bike your riding?? About an XR not being race worthy..thats BS. are they are race bike in stock condition..answer is NO..are they capabable of racing hare scrambles and being very competitive...answer is YES. There is a guy that that raced all the NCHSA races this year on a almost stock XR250R,stock engine,was respringed for his weight,has been uncorked. He didn't miss a race this year except 1 and he never once finished outside the top 5 and won about 5 of the races...keep in mind he was racing guys on 250 2-strokes,CRF450s. He won at the fastest track this year. That track was FAST and not tight at all and he won,beat CRF450s,250 2-strokes,etc. BTW he is 16 years old and that was his 1st year racing.

XRs are capable..not on a MX track but in the woods. When people just constantly dog a bike you ride it just makes you feel bad. I talked to some members from here on AIM yesterday and told them I was thinking about a XR4. And they were telling me to get a CRF or YZF...thats fine if thats what they want but maybe I want reliability. Thats fine if some people want to sacrifice reliability for light weight..I don't. Point of my reply is that XRs have alot of potential...you just gotta find it........


now I better get a sheild and cover myself as I will probably get thrashed for posting this.
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Old 11-27-2003, 06:31 PM
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And yes, I tied a bone stock CR125(1999) but not on an MX track, we were out on a long farm road.
Does anyone hear the BS alarm?
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Old 11-27-2003, 06:35 PM
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Falling in line with what yardpro said, the bike is a cruiser. It does what it is designed to do well... cruise around the woods, and ride along terrain comfortably. It is not meant to be jumped, pounded through g-outs etc... It is not a racebike in the least. Its a comfortable, mild mannered cruiser.

If you are going to race or ride aggressively, a cr or kx or whatever is the bike for you.

If you actually did beat that CR125, it was because the rider was a newbie, and couldnt keep the bike on the pipe. It takes a much more skilled rider to ride a 125 fast. You cant just let it lug out of the corners and then come into the powerband, you have to manipulate the clutch to keep the rpm's almost constant.
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Old 11-27-2003, 08:03 PM
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Hey Matt,

I race the NCHSA races also. My name is Kyle and I raced the light-c class this year but for the last 2 races I raced 250a. I think I know the kid that you are talking about that rode the xr250 this year and his name is jeremy beam. He now rides a KX250 not the xr anymore. But the guy that rides an xr the best is Kirby that races the masters class and wins practicly every race he enters.

Kyle
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Old 11-27-2003, 08:13 PM
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Hey kyle..Kyle Northrop right? I raced Gold Hill this year and talked to Tyler Hampton at the starting line and he said you and Seth decided to race A class..and yes that was Jeremy Beam I was talking about...He had his XR at Gold Hill I think? I raced UNLIMITED class at Gold Hill on my CR250R. I would of done better but the ruts really held me back because I am not at all used to riding in ruts(mostly ride by myself). How did you like the CRF250R at Gold Hill compared to your CR125R? Tyler said he didn't think you or your dad liked it. Ross Kennedy told me that also..said that you said you couldn't get a rythm going when riding it.
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Yeah I hated the crf250 in the woods but on mx I really like it. I rode a cr250r at the last race (rattlesnake) and I finished 3rd in 250a. I just really like the 2 strokes and I am not gonna be riding another 4 stroke for a long time now. I like my cr125r also they are really fun but with my cr250r i feel much smoother and seem to go faster on it.

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Old 11-27-2003, 08:53 PM
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What year CR250R you got kyle?
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Old 11-27-2003, 09:22 PM
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Default Re: Racing a CRF 230

matt
no need for a shield, cuase you're absolutely right.
when i hear people talk about racing, i as well as many others here assume MX.
the xr's are great trail bikes, as a matter of fact, the nastier the trails the better the xr line shines. not having alot of hp can be a good thing when the going gets slippery and rough.

the crf 230, however is not as capeable as the xr line. and keep in mind that the thread topic is racing a crf230.
i still think you will be dissapointed with the power output of the xr 400. you can get the reliability and all the positive traits of the xr with the drz 400. they are awesome trail bikes. so are the ktm's and the kdx's.
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