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Old 01-12-2004, 09:07 AM
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For those of you that saw the race on TV, can you tell me if the block pass was bad enough to get windham docked 10 points?

Seems like BS to me. I listened live to the race and No one said anything about it being cheap???

Here's the press release from www.racerxill.com

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January 11, 2003

Windham wins, but will he lose the points?

If you just watched ESPN2's coverage of the Phoenix Supercross, you saw Kevin Windham win the main event over Chad Reed and Mike LaRocco. You also probably saw the hammering K-Dub gave Team Yamaha's David Vuillemin in retalliation for an aggressive pass by DV12 in the previous corner. After the race, AMA Pro Racing MX Manager Steve Whitelock, whom we interviewed earlier in the week on Racer X Online, decided to dock Windham 10 points for the hit on Vuillemin, but allowed him to keep the win. The penalty was immediately appealed by Windham's Factory Connection/Amsoil/No Fear Honda team, which means it may be awhile before we know the final outcome of the penalty. At any rate, below is the official press release from Clear Channel Entertainment, which came out before the penatly was made public. Stay tuned for more on this unexpected story....
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Old 01-12-2004, 09:14 AM
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Well, he didnt just block him, he put himself right in front of him. He's lucky he didnt hurt himself, ie his leg/foot with that move.

but, if you fine one, you should fine both, it really was a payback move.
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Old 01-12-2004, 09:29 AM
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Yeah, Windham talked about it after the race and admitted it was a payback move and that he wasnt going to let anyone push him around this year. Villemin had done the same thing to Windham just before so if they are gonna take points away they should take from both. Villemin didnt seem to upset over it, just another day of racing.
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Old 01-12-2004, 09:52 AM
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Hmm, thanks guys/girls.

I wish I had ESPN2, I need to see this type of stuff.

I guess the 10 points may or may not be taken away. We'll see.

Go KDUB!
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Old 01-12-2004, 10:31 AM
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The AMA is sometimes to strict and other times not strict enough. The pass DV put on KW was NOTHING like the pass KW payed him back with. DV could have parked KW in the cheap seats but didn't. KW's pass was, by his own admission, a deliberate take out of DV. I think DV deserved a payback but.................

I would never condone departing from the truth but all KW had to say was he was carrying a lot of speed and the track was loose and slippery.......which it was........and they got together. I believe AMA banged him based on what he said during his post race interview.

To bad because I think DV deserved a payback but not to that extent.
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Old 01-12-2004, 10:43 AM
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I really like Windham but he was a little out of line. I understand the reasoning the AMA did it...heck it's only the second race. Gotta set the tone and ground rules early.

The Cobra should have gotten the same thing just to show that they were being even handed.

BTW ..Woody....NO ESPN2?? What up with that??
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Old 01-12-2004, 10:56 AM
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man, i missed it. i guess i'll have to bum a tape from someone.
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Old 01-12-2004, 11:13 AM
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Haven't seen it, but if nobody got down it seems ok to me. From time to time riders make agressive moves, especially if you have been put aside a few corners back. What happens on the track, stays on the track. Just don't do things that get other people injured (on purpose!!) !! Give K-dub his points but if he get put aside next week, the same story then!!
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Old 01-12-2004, 11:24 AM
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Dale Earnhardt said it best, Rubin's racing.
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Old 01-12-2004, 12:20 PM
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I really like Windham but he was a little out of line. I understand the reasoning the AMA did it...heck it's only the second race. Gotta set the tone and ground rules early.

The Cobra should have gotten the same thing just to show that they were being even handed.

BTW ..Woody....NO ESPN2?? What up with that??
Long story short... I'd never do anything if I had cable and so I've decided that we can't afford it.

I know, I need it big time, but between espn and the history channel, my wife would in fact can me.
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Old 01-12-2004, 12:31 PM
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Long story short... I'd never do anything if I had cable and so I've decided that we can't afford it.
Me too..
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Old 01-12-2004, 01:09 PM
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I hear ya Woody. I Tivo'd the Canadian Motocross that was on SPEED. MAN!!!!!!!!!!! You guys talk about racing! That was so much fun seeing 6 guys battle for the lead! I was impressed. I Tivo'd the Supercross too so I can watch it more than once and really bug my wife! LOL
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Old 01-12-2004, 01:25 PM
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Oh, yeah having tivo would be the bomb... but yeah, my wife would KILL ME. I'd have to figure out how to surf ATM, watch TV and go to work. Hmmm... that's just too much for my little brain.
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Old 01-12-2004, 02:30 PM
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I'm not surprised at the point deduction. Last weekend, it was Evans and Langston banging on each other. I don't think they will let it turn into rollerball and this is their way of putting a stop to the takeout stuff. Just my .02 worth. (And I don't like LaCobra!)
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Frakke DV did go down, pretty much T boned Windham, I'm suprised Windham put himself in that position, a wheel is one thing, but your whole side is quite another.
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Windam said in his post race interview that in the second corner DV came in on him and made Kdub let off the gas, so Kdub went in on DV in the next corner to make him let off but he didnt. i got so pumped up though when i saw that move! Hell Yeah! rubin is racin
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i think the AMA is full of crap(i always have) they didnt do squat in 01 when langston cleaned bobby bond's clock outoodrs, or in 02 when ricky and pastrana got tangled up and now they decide its time to look as if they actualy did anything about anything! This is just the AMA flexing its fake muscle.

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i got so pumped up though when i saw that move! Hell Yeah! rubin is racin
i started laughing my butt off! i thought it was a hoot myself.
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Old 01-12-2004, 04:20 PM
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I happen to agree, I think the AMA is a joke.
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Old 01-12-2004, 04:34 PM
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I am so glad this didnt turn into a Yam vs Hon thing! Truth be know that plays very little in how I pick my favorite riders. I happened to like the following and in this order

1. James Bubba Stewart
2. Kevin Windham
3. Tim Ferry
4. Chad Reed
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