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Old 08-09-2004, 09:59 PM
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I have a couple of MotoX videos from the 2003 and 1999 European Grand Prix seasons. It seems like the European tracks donít have too many doubles or triples, all the obstacles look like table tops, step ups or step downs plus extreme elevation changes compared to US tracks (they get some pretty serious air in spite of a lack of doubles and triples). The current champions are also much older than the typical US champions; ages are more like 27 to 30 instead of 18 to 25. Do you think the type of track is the difference in longevity of the European riders compared to US riders or am I just not seeing the doubles and triples on European tracks?
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Old 08-10-2004, 12:13 AM
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hmm i never thought about that...i have noticed the track differences from the videos frakke shows...It makes one wonder!
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Old 08-10-2004, 01:28 AM
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I think it's just conincidence to be honest! Both types of tracks are pretty different. I bet that deep landings and bumpy rutted jump faces would take alot out of you in Europe. THe some of the American tracks seem to be more open. But as you say (and I have seen too) some of the jumps inEurope are huge!
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Old 08-10-2004, 10:51 AM
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A guy from Ireland on a differant board said they dont have many doubles and triples. I dont remember if he said it was a safety thing or just they way they do it. He also said the 250 class over there isnt much of anything, and the 125 class is "where its at"...
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Old 08-10-2004, 11:35 AM
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I think you're correct. Most of the European tracks I've seen, seem to have very little supercross influence. Instead of doubles and triples, there's big uphills and downhills.
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Old 08-11-2004, 08:30 AM
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I once read a racerx article where some of the european riders complained that the tracks were unsafe because of the high speeds. Even with no big jumps a 4th gear wreck can easily mess you up good.
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Old 08-11-2004, 09:46 AM
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I also read an open letter from Mickael Pichon on RacerX (http://www.racerxill.com/061303_Pichon_letter.cfm) along the same lines. In the letter he sites Pit Beirer's crash and the high speeds. Actually, since I'm a novice rider, I think I would prefer the European style tracks since I wouldn't be going that fast and then I wouldn't have to worry about coming up short or casing a double or rolling a triple which wears you out pretty quick. I've jumped a couple pretty big doubles and the nerve it requires almost takes the fun out of it. Now small doubles are a blast, but the ones where you have to take a deep breath first aren't worth it. I suppose once you're good enough, they are all fun, but I am clearly not good enough yet and getting good enough just might kill me first
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Old 08-11-2004, 10:19 AM
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I think you're correct. Most of the European tracks I've seen, seem to have very little supercross influence. Instead of doubles and triples, there's big uphills and downhills.
I think you guys are hitting all around it but not saying it. Euro tracks are more natual terrain oriented. The US tracks I think started out that way but we need to have the WOW factor so bigger jumps etc....
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Old 08-11-2004, 01:54 PM
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Check out the interview on Racer X.

http://www.racerxill.com/081004_Bench_Ammo.cfm

Dude doesn't hold back....
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I think you guys are hitting all around it but not saying it. Euro tracks are more natual terrain oriented. The US tracks I think started out that way but we need to have the WOW factor so bigger jumps etc....
As I live in Belgium, the capital of the MX world , I know for sure that this is a correct statement from Ranger. All tracks in the (Euro) world series are (were) based on natural terrain. The last years, more and more artificial jumps, copied from the SX, are introduced but on average the track remains 'natural'. What puzzles me is the observed age difference. It is true that the current, previous and next world champion on MX1, Stefan Everts, is 32 years old. He won however his first races when he was something like 16 and became first time world champ at 17 or so. That spans 16 years (and counting).
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