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Old 05-31-2007, 04:00 PM
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Sometimes when I jump it feels like my feet want to fly off the pegs...I do try to squeeze the bike with my legs though. Oh also, sometimes I see when people jump they kind of put all of their weight on their pegs I guess to compress the shocks before the jump..Should I try this? One last thing..every time I jump my friont end goes down quickly. I do hold on the gas until I leave the jump.. I know this because I hear my engine winding out...Any tips would be greatly appreicated.
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:35 PM
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i hate when that happens. its usually because your body goes more off the jump than your bike does. if that makes sense to you. its probably because your not pulling up in time. i do the shocks thing mostly because for me it feels more comfortable and it gets me a little higher. as for your front end going down quickly, im not too sure. sorry.
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:36 PM
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Thanks man.
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:43 PM
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no prob. anything i can do to help a fellow rider.
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:47 PM
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All I can say is it is a SCARY feeling lol...and im not getting that much air and it still scares me pretty bad
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:52 PM
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Honestly I bet you are trying too hard. For me jumping (I am not a high flier) is natural when you keep a steady and consistent throttle/pace its gonna happen.

I haven't frequented mx tracks allot but I know I can jump about any hill or mound of dirt around my house. It didn't start happening because I wanted to jump. I just eventually became comfortable and consistent. Catching a little air just followed that. Is that all you are thinking about when you ride? Hitting the jump? If so, it will be a long time for you to get the other important skills needed to control your bike! I don't think compressing your suspension is anything you should think about now. IMO Not every jump needs that anyway.

When you say you aren't jumping right, are you trying to clear a double or something? I can jump, but I don't want to go as fast it takes to clear some doubles (yet)

Or is it just you are not comfortable with the different ways your bike reacts to jumps?

If thats it than I think this......

If you worked on your form around the entire track, and forgot about the jumps, I bet you would catch more air and it would be a smoother ride for you all together.

Thats my opinion, but I am sure there are others. Good luck
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Old 05-31-2007, 06:54 PM
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Thanks mama ...well I find when I try to jump out of corners if I dont really try to press my feet against the pegs...they come off! And no..I am not gutsy enough to try a double...at least not yet. The one jump that isnt out of a corner that you can actually get speed for doesnt have much of a lip though.
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Are you sitting or something?

If so you need to stand up as soon as you get out of the corner.

You need to look up "Attack position" Read everything you can about that, everywhere. Here, on other sites, in books, and order videos.


When you are riding say everything you can remember about that to yourself over and over and over... every time you ride.

Every inch of your body has a place its supposed to be when you ride. Learn about that and you will get better at everything. I will look for some links to send you in a few
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Old 05-31-2007, 07:05 PM
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Na I stand when I jump..I will try to stand out of the corner faster though...thanks for the links!!!!
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File = 'D:\Program Files\WPK\websites\motoxschool\beginnerjumping.htm '

Got this off that site too

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When learning how to jump it is critical that you slowly ride over the ramp many times to get a feel for the ramp and the way it moves you around on the bike. This is probably the single most important thing you can do when working up to learning how to jump. To ensure safety and success simply take your time and ride over the jump without catching any air. Go a little faster each time you hit the ramp, but even as you increase your speed, remember to stay out of the power band
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Old 05-31-2007, 08:40 PM
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Thank you so much! But that quote...stay OUT of the power band???? You wont get that much speed out of the power band. Thats where all the power is!!! Unless it means when your just starting?
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Thank you so much! But that quote...stay OUT of the power band???? You wont get that much speed out of the power band. Thats where all the power is!!! Unless it means when your just starting?

Jumping in the power band in considered an "advanced technique" at least according to that site. You are just starting out, so you should be doing what that quote suggests. Thats just my opinion. I ain't no expert by any means, but it would suck if you got hurt when you are just getting started. When you cant control what the bike is doing, thats when you can get hurt.
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Sounds to me like maybe part of the problem is the shock settings. Maybe the rebound is too strong. Maybe your too light for the spring on the bike? If your rear end comes up try, instead of just holding steady throttle off the jump, giving the a throttle chop right off the lip. It works for me on those types of jumps that kick my rear tire up.
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Throttle chop is when you gas it quickly right?
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Throttle chop is when you gas it quickly right?
im pretty sure what you're describing is blipping or cracking the throttle. chop reffers to getting OFF the gas. the reason DBD said that is becuase if you are giving it gas a second or two while you are in the air, that will cause the front end to come up, which is your problem.
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Really?? When I jump I notice my front wheel lands first..
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You need to let the bike do the work. If you relax and let the bike jump instead of you trying to jump the bike you'll be much more in control. Beginners always try to almost bunny hop the bike instead of keeping a loose, neutral position on the bike. Just stay relaxed, steady on the throttle and in the center of the bike and you'll be fine.

Preloading the pegs or seat bouncing or anything else will come in time. Just concentrate on getting comfortable and relaxed right now. One thing that could help is shifting up a gear. Beginners need to learn to jump in a gear that offers some cushion as far as throttle control. Advanced riders can jump with the bike totally rapped out and shift as they leave the face of the jump or just as they get into the air and still apply the throttle correctly without getting themselves into trouble. Beginners benefit from jumping in a higher gear because the bike will naturally be less finicky to throttle application.
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Thanks for the tip. Next time I ride I will just concentrate on my positioning.
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Just make sure that you relax. Have you seen that video of the guy who's racing for the first time and crashes 3 times in one lap and then ends up whiskey throttling himself off the track? That's a perfect example of a guy that didn't work on relaxing.
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