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Old 10-03-2014, 03:38 PM
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Long story short, I think the PO was less than honest with me. The more I get into this bike, the more issues I'm finding and the less I believe that the 10 hours shown on the meter are factual. I also see some tool marks on the valve cover bolts and the head bolts, so it seems someone has been into the top end already. I'm strongly considering pulling the top end off and looking everything over before I spend any seat time on the bike so that I will KNOW what I'm working with. Any advice either for or against doing so?
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:49 PM
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Long story short, I think the PO was less than honest with me.
Hold on.. wait for it... <----- yeah, that's my shocked face.
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Old 10-03-2014, 03:59 PM
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I'd say pop anything off with a reusable gasket. It shouldn't cost anything but time to do that and will give you an idea if to continue or not.
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Old 10-03-2014, 04:08 PM
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Tool marks aren't uncommon. Sometimes they can assure you that at least something was looked at....
It's normal to check the valve lash often, I would start there...
If paranoia is really setting in, then order the gaskets and crack it open. 10hours is a squeeze for a 2012, there no guessing when the meter was put on unless it has shop paperwork..... I'm assuming you drained the oil?
You can check compression. Also, look for wear signs on the engine cases, caked dirt, stained cases, rock chips on the frame etc etc you can claim low hours but there are tell tail signs you cannot hide!

My '10 YZ450 has a built in hour meter, at only 67 hour the valves hadn't budged and the owner had actually changed the piston ( tool marks on head bolts etc ). The oil was used but nothing out of the ordinary!
Being a yamaha I'm not opening it for a ....long....time....



This comes to mind and I don't wish on you....

Kaboom! 2012 Kawasaki 450 shatters motor! - YouTube

be wise, check it!
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Old 10-03-2014, 06:15 PM
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Long story short, I think the PO was less than honest with me. The more I get into this bike, the more issues I'm finding and the less I believe that the 10 hours shown on the meter are factual. I also see some tool marks on the valve cover bolts and the head bolts, so it seems someone has been into the top end already. I'm strongly considering pulling the top end off and looking everything over before I spend any seat time on the bike so that I will KNOW what I'm working with. Any advice either for or against doing so?
And that, my friend. Is why I would NEVER buy a used racing 4-stroke.
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Old 10-03-2014, 10:09 PM
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Or any 4 choke lol.
Kidding.............kind of
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Shoulda brought a...................













Keep going..........................











YARMARHAR!!!!!!!

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I'm not kidding of corse
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First thing I do on a new (or new to me) bike is go through and check all clearances and grease everything up. I like to know where I started. Don't be so sure it's a bad sign. Ride it if there's no strange noises. And I get phenomenal mileage from my stuff.
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Old 10-04-2014, 08:24 PM
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And that, my friend. Is why I would NEVER buy a used racing 4-stroke.
Hard to justify buying new anymore. Too much value lost too soon. Doing a regular pre-purchase inspection I didn't see any major red flags. Engine cases are clean with no stains, frame rails are basically flawless. No scratches in the frame or swing arm. Linkage is clean. No play in any bearings. I could go on and on... I'm no stranger to buying used bikes. It wasn't until I started digging deeper that I started to notice a few things. And bear in mind, I'm pretty anal when it comes to my bikes. My 06 YZ is the perfect example of that.

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YARMARHAR!!!!!!!
It's a hard pill to swallow admitting that the KX is probably a better bike for the kind of riding I do than they YZ is. I've had such a love/hate relationship with my 06 YZ that I decided it was worth trying something different. There are things I like about the Kawi and things I like about the Yamaha, but in the end I think the KX is going to be a great bike for me.

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First thing I do on a new (or new to me) bike is go through and check all clearances and grease everything up. I like to know where I started. Don't be so sure it's a bad sign. Ride it if there's no strange noises. And I get phenomenal mileage from my stuff.
That's precisely what I'm doing and why I didn't see some of the things that bother me until later. At this point there's no going back, I've already spent the money to get the suspension revalved and set up for me and bought a good whack of maintenance items/add-ons so I'll make the best of it! I just need to go over the bike extremely thoroughly and make note of anything I see, do whatever tear down/replacing seems prudent and then start riding the dang thing.
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I'll test it for You and let You know if it's gonna break
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I'll test it for You and let You know if it's gonna break
Get to driving, you've got a long trip ahead of you!
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