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Old 01-17-2005, 02:53 PM
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Ok so i tore apart my CR 125 today and found out that I really f'ed up the cylinder and head. Now I need to know where I can get a cylinder for a 93 cheap. Or would it be easier to resleeve it? Also how tough is it to split the cases and clean all that out? Ive never split the cases so Im a little hesitant to just go do it.

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Old 01-17-2005, 03:57 PM
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Ok so i tore apart my CR 125 today and found out that I really f'ed up the cylinder and head. Now I need to know where I can get a cylinder for a 93 cheap. Or would it be easier to resleeve it? Also how tough is it to split the cases and clean all that out? Ive never split the cases so Im a little hesitant to just go do it.

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Split the cases, only way to do it right. If you need help speak up, I've started to split them on my 250 and I can get pics/answer questions if you have any.

Try www.eric-gorr.com for a used cylinder and/or repairing your old one, you can't go wrong. Tell him Faded sent you. Remember that you're getting into the busy season and it's just Eric doing the work, so it could take a little longer for repairs but you'll pay less in the end. Good luck.
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Old 01-17-2005, 04:31 PM
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Split the cases, only way to do it right. If you need help speak up, I've started to split them on my 250 and I can get pics/answer questions if you have any.

Try www.eric-gorr.com for a used cylinder and/or repairing your old one, you can't go wrong. Tell him Faded sent you. Remember that you're getting into the busy season and it's just Eric doing the work, so it could take a little longer for repairs but you'll pay less in the end. Good luck.

Thanks. I looked at eric-gorr.com but all I saw was bored out cylinders unless Im missing something on the site. Im just looking for a stock bore. Maybe I should email him and see what he has.
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Old 01-17-2005, 05:43 PM
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I'd call him first...he's pretty busy and sometimes takes a while to answer emails.
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Old 01-17-2005, 06:39 PM
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He has bored cylinders ready to go.

But he can also replate your current cylinder.

Either way, don't sleeve it.
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Old 01-18-2005, 12:52 PM
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Yep, I will 3rd faded on the eric gorr suggestion. Eric is good people. I too would also shy away from a sleeve if I were you.
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Old 01-18-2005, 02:08 PM
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Whats the big deal about resleeving? Im just trying to find a cheap way to fix my bike. I dont want to spend the $400-500 it will be to get a 144cc from Eric Gorr. And if I were to get the 144cc cylinder wouldnt I have to run high octane gas?
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Yeah, what gives on the re-sleeving? What is bad about it? I am not in this situation yet, but my curiosity is getting to me now...

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Old 01-18-2005, 03:55 PM
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Steel liners + cast aluminum cylinders = problems. Sleeves are a press fit item and the sucess of job will depend on the experience of the machinist. Also, the expansion/contraction properties of the different metals (of the sleeve and cylinder) can lead to the cylinder rotating in the bore, ports becoming mis-aligned, etc. Steel isn't as hard or as durable as Nikasil plating and lacks the heat transfer properties as well. A steel bore will require replacement over time where as a well plated and well cared for Nikasiled cylinder will be just fine.

EG can set up a 144cc kit to run just fine on pump gas, after Eric massaged my CR265 it's still able to survive on the stuff.
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Old 01-18-2005, 04:35 PM
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If cost is an issue, sleeving is NOT the way to go. For a decent sleeve job you are looking at 100 bucks for the sleeve and 150 bucks for the labor to install it correctly. And it still won't be as good as stock. You can get Eric to fix your standard cylinder for that kind of money. He will weld up any gouges, bore it, and have it replated.

You might also search the Service Honda website and see what new parts would sell for. You might be pleasently surprised.
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