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Old 07-12-2007, 02:30 PM
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Neato! I wonder where Hot Sauce will end up? I bet NYK sure likes the fact that he won't be overshadowed by DV12 anymore.
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That's akward, I remember reading somewhere that DV was signed to the MDK Honda team for 08 and maybe 09.
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DV12 looks best on a blue bike. That's my final answer!
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Old 07-12-2007, 05:43 PM
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Tedesco is going to Honda. It's been in the works for some time now. I guess this is Suzuki's desperate attempt at finding a replacement. Personally I would have liked to see Suzuki grab a true privateer that is on his way up versus out. I'm sure this is a short term deal. Hopefully DV can put something together. His equipment is no longer a issue.
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DV12 looks best on a blue bike. That's my final answer!
He looks wrong on anything but a YZ250 if you ask me.
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Well, seeing how his equipment is only getting better, After he left Yamaha (which I think personally, was the worst decision he's ever done) it's been all down hill from there. First with racing a quarter of the Supercross season last year with the Bookoo Honda team, than switching to the privateer Yamaha team for the Nationals, and this year, getting on the best privateer team out there, he's certainly getting smarter, and on his way back up. But I agree with Loki, I do also think this will be a short term deal, and Suzuki should find an amateur on his way up in the sport than leaving. They did good with Ryan Dungey.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:45 PM
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Suzuki should find an amateur on his way up in the sport than leaving. They did good with Ryan Dungey.
Perhaps it is their hope that they can get by with DV untill Dungey is ready to move up to a 450.
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I think it is too bad that DV didn't have Roger Decoster's influence earlier in his career. If you read what Decoster said, it seems they look at DV as a rider to help develope the bike. He may have a pretty long career for that in the making. I don't think it was done with the idea that he would be making a serious title assault.

If you look at what recent racing results have brought as far as sales, you would think that winning races hurts your sales. 'See any huge numbers flocking to the Suzuki or Kawasaki dealers to buy yellow and green? Deals are plentiful on them in the 3 market areas I am familiar with.
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If you look at what recent racing results have brought as far as sales, you would think that winning races hurts your sales. 'See any huge numbers flocking to the Suzuki or Kawasaki dealers to buy yellow and green? Deals are plentiful on them in the 3 market areas I am familiar with.
In AZ there are a LOT of racers moving from Honda to Kawi because of their amazing contingency program. I have a Pro friend who rode Yamaha thumpers since the YZ400F came out in 98 and then he moved to a Honda for the 06 season. He then moved to Kawi for 07, as did the majority of the serious racers in the area, and he's made in the thousands off of the contingency program this year. Honda and Yamaha's contingency programs are crap. I'm not sure about Suzuki's program, but I think their issue with selling bikes has more to do with the reliability, or lack thereof, of their motors.
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I think it is too bad that DV didn't have Roger Decoster's influence earlier in his career. If you read what Decoster said, it seems they look at DV as a rider to help develope the bike. He may have a pretty long career for that in the making. I don't think it was done with the idea that he would be making a serious title assault.

If you look at what recent racing results have brought as far as sales, you would think that winning races hurts your sales. 'See any huge numbers flocking to the Suzuki or Kawasaki dealers to buy yellow and green? Deals are plentiful on them in the 3 market areas I am familiar with.
Race wins don't equal sales these days, thats for sure. Maybe in the old days. Since the early 80's, if its red, it sales. Then in the mid-late 90's Yamaha really started selling also. I still think DV could challenge for a title still, but I don't think that he thinks he can. At the PHX SX this year during practice he was flying, kept trading the 2nd fastest lap time back and forth with RC. But of course ate crap big time during the main. If he can gain confidence, he will be a threat to Stewart, and Reed.
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When talking about bike sales, you almost leave the citizen racer out of the equation in a lot of areas. The guy that races 12 or fewer races a year, and probably the one that doesnt race in sanctioned events of any kind is the most common owner. I think the only people that bought KX's in the 3 market areas I was mentioning are those who can get some money back. For the rest and that means for the most, the red and blue ones are the ones that sell more often. That last market is the one the companies are trying to reach. They tend to buy more accessories and get service work done at dealerships, as opposed to those who buy from sponsors (boy is that an oximoron) and do their own work, then get money back to boot.

On DV, his big limit is his own motivation and has been for a long time. He is not willing to train as hard, so his confidence in being able to compete with the elite of the sport likely is not there. Decoster's influence may have been able to change that, and was why I said it was too bad it wasn't there sooner.
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On DV, his big limit is his own motivation and has been for a long time. He is not willing to train as hard, so his confidence in being able to compete with the elite of the sport likely is not there. Decoster's influence may have been able to change that, and was why I said it was too bad it wasn't there sooner.
You are so right about DV and his training. He doesn't hire a trainer or riding coach and is limiting himself. He says he can do it all on his own but if you simply look at the guy you can tell he's not in peak condition, certainly not in the type of condition that it takes to win consistently. He gets lucky when the tracks suit his particular strengths (mud) but his motivation to train and practice to win just isn't there.
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Old 07-13-2007, 01:55 PM
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In DV's response he said he is "super-pumped". Wow he is ready for the podium, he is talking just like James and Ricky. I wonder if he is ready for an "Epic Battle".
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It will be "epic" if he can crack the top 5 with all the talent in there now.
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Somebody needs to sign up Gavin Gracyk (sp?), that kid is a worker, has a great attitude and is bringing good results.
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Old 07-14-2007, 12:24 AM
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Its going to be interesting to see what happens with RV and Townley in the next couple years. Is Monster/Kawi going to field 4 450 class bikes with Stewart, Ferry, RV and Townley? I dunno if team Monster/Kawi had pockets that are that deep.
Who knows, perhaps one of the other factories will sign one of maybe even both of those riders.
I could see Yamaha going after them. Big Blue doesnt really have any great riders right now. Reed doesnt have what it takes to beat Stewart and he doesnt race the outdoors and Yamaha needs a young rider who can challenge Stewart. They have bikes that can win, they just need riders who can ride to the bike's full potential.
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...... If he can gain confidence, he will be a threat to Stewart, and Reed.
you is funny!
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Old 07-14-2007, 04:06 AM
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i agree also about Gavin Gracyk, one of the factories needs to throw him a ride for next year and see what the guy can do with a factory bike between his legs. ive been impressed with him for sure.
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