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Old 07-26-2015, 09:43 AM
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STOP STOP STOP!!!!!!!
If you encounter a buggered up phillips head you must do it this way or you'll likely make it worse and may not be able to use this method.

So, here is a really good tip if you bugger a phillips head or like me, open up a seemingly good bike to find one buggered up for you.
Honestly, if you reuse a buggered up phillips head you should be whipped.
But anyway, here is how to handle it.

1-solid surface
If the engine is out of the frame make sure it's positioned so the force you are going to apply is against a solid surface.
In this case, I had to lay the engine on it's side in the engine box.

2-Use the right size bit from your impact driver (you DO have an impact driver don't you?) and hammer just the bit into the slot, it should firm up.

3-Now, put the impact on the bit and pull down as hard as you can while striking it with your hammer.

Here's a couple of pics for you.






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Old 07-26-2015, 10:52 AM
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I despise philips head screws. Seems like Suzuki really liked them in the late 70's and early 80's. Nothing like going to work on a "race ready" scooter and finding those little buggers all rounded out. I've also resorted to a small cutting wheel in the dremel to make it a slotted head.
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Old 07-26-2015, 11:57 AM
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Yup, the Drexel is the next step.
Btw-I think the problem with them is the taper.
Maybe if they were a true cross without the taper?
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Old 07-27-2015, 04:17 AM
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They make screwdrivers and impact driver tips to fit those japanese phillips screws. They are "jis". The standard phillips has a different taper and doesn't get a good bite on the screw. It can be used but the chance of damage goes way up. If you spend much time working on bikes, a couple jis screwdrivers and impact bits are a good investment. They will easily pay for themselves with reduced headaches.
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Old 07-27-2015, 06:31 AM
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Thanks for that bit of info. I'll be ordering some today!

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Old 07-27-2015, 07:03 AM
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When I read read the first sentence I said to myself "impact driver" and almost slammed the book but I actually did learn something here. I never lightly tap the bit in place first I always just go at it.. ill be doing it your way from now on. And I always replace with a hex bolt if possible, mostly stator covers and shrouds give me the ??? never can figure why they out Phillips heads on a bike. Brake res is the only ones that make sense
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Old 07-27-2015, 09:19 AM
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If you don't "set" the bit first, it will surely make it worse just by the turning nature of the impact driver.
Btw-An Impact driver should be in every toolbox, $10.
Glad to see I had some impact
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Old 07-27-2015, 09:32 AM
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I would suggest spending the extra coin on a quality impact driver. I bought one from Harbor Freight, I think it was about $10. First time I tried to use it the bit destroyed itself so I took it back and got a refund.
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Old 07-27-2015, 11:09 AM
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Also, if safe and viable, use a punch that is slightly larger than the screw head and punch the top of the Philips head 'flat'...this will squish the cross section, then hammer the CORRECT SIZE BIT in and this will help the bit to stay in place and deliver the torque directly without it 'camming out'....
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