Black '08 CRF 450

[MotoMan]

Originally Posted by Woody_393

Too much: $7500

I also found out from my local honda shop that only the "premier" shops got the black honda's. Premier translates to shops that sell ONLY honda

Yep, I found that out as well...I also found out that my honda shop in OH has one.....come on W2's....get here.

[VET393]

Originally Posted by MotoMan

Yep, I found that out as well...I also found out that my honda shop in OH has one.....come on W2's....get here.

The shop here deals in Kaw-Yam-Honda-Suz and they has a 250.

[joe346CBMX]

Originally Posted by DRGSin393

Handling and motor..Id say those are improtant enough difference makers. Law dog has an 08 Honda...you talk to him about it?

guys did you just now see the black models? I'm kind of surprized because they been out a while. anyway... thought I'd offer my opinions. I've only raced Yamaha's and Hondas.

I don't have the 08, but an 04 and 07 CRF250r's my son and I share. I've mentioned it before but I've raced and owned both YZF 250's and 450's and CRF450 and my crf250's. the 04 crf450 I had I did race hard more than 80 races in 2 years. That is 2 classes at more than 20 evenst each year, 04 and 05. I did start breaking things on it, like hubs, and it started nickel and diming me 1/2 way thru year 2. that is why I went to the YZ250 2t I eventually broke my leg on. I basically gave up some performance preferences for reliability then.

so hope this helps.

The things I like more about CRF's are:

1. much prefer the cornering ability of crf's. the front end stick better, main reason I came back.
2. the crf's feel much slimmer and agile, although the weight is similar the feel lighter. more so in 05-08's.
3. the rider compartment/ergos feel just right for me at 6'00, even with stock bars...pegs, bars, tank ...still got my cr hi TAG's in the trailer
4. i like that they seperated gear oil and motor oil

things I like better about YZF's :

1. stone reliable

[joe346CBMX]

Originally Posted by MotoMan

Yep, I found that out as well...I also found out that my honda shop in OH has one.....come on W2's....get here.

our shop sells all 4 japanese brands and they had them but sold them quickly. word around our area is they will not bargain on the 08 crf's. retail or darn close to it. It's why I went with a left over 07 at near cost. by the end of 08 I'll be re-evaluating and deciding if I want to go back to a racing a 450 or just ride the 250f's for fun/ racing. The 09 CRF has EFI that may sway me. cold weather starts on a 4t stink, lol. Honda won't have it unless the have the bugs worked out. steering stabilizer ad black extras on 08's was not enough to sway me to pay retail.

[Woody_393]

Yeah, I think you are right -- I'll be paying retail if I buy locally. I don't think I could even find a black one. I'm not on the market yet anyway, so I cross that bridge when I get there.

[joe346CBMX]

Originally Posted by MotoMan

Truthfully, I never really noticed it until I rode the Honda and felt the difference. But its def. there.

exactly. I rode the CRF i bought my son last summer when I still had the YZF450 and I was like darn, it's not just the hard slick track and me because this crf sticks really well. Of course it was magnified by the conditions-dry and slick. then I rode my buddy Gary's 05 CRF450 and had him ride the YZF and it was unanimous. IMO, once you realize how much faster you can corner it's a no brainer.

joe

[MotoMan]

I am pretty sure I won't be at a retail price with the guy I have been speaking too, our whole group of guys buy from him, and he does us right for the most part. But we will see.

Taxes getting done next week....

[joe346CBMX]

that's how things work with CBMX too but they told my buddy retail on black so he bought a little further from home and saved a couple hundred but not much, hope you get what you want though. j

[DRGSin393]

Originally Posted by joe346CBMX

exactly. I rode the CRF i bought my son last summer when I still had the YZF450 and I was like darn, it's not just the hard slick track and me because this crf sticks really well. Of course it was magnified by the conditions-dry and slick. then I rode my buddy Gary's 05 CRF450 and had him ride the YZF and it was unanimous. IMO, once you realize how much faster you can corner it's a no brainer.

joe

WOW!! Thanks Joe! Now I know whats been keeping from going factory this whole time. I better get going with that thigh master this winter so that Ill be ready for the MX season in the spring!

[Woody_393]

Originally Posted by joe346CBMX

exactly. I rode the CRF i bought my son last summer when I still had the YZF450 and I was like darn, it's not just the hard slick track and me because this crf sticks really well. Of course it was magnified by the conditions-dry and slick. then I rode my buddy Gary's 05 CRF450 and had him ride the YZF and it was unanimous. IMO, once you realize how much faster you can corner it's a no brainer.

joe

And that's not even on the '08 which is supposed to REALLY corner well.

[joe346CBMX]

Originally Posted by DRGSin393

WOW!! Thanks Joe! Now I know whats been keeping from going factory this whole time. I better get going with that thigh master this winter so that Ill be ready for the MX season in the spring!

Do I note a slight sense of sarcasm there smarty pants? My appologies bro, I should have said something sooner and you'd be making millions...my bad

In all seriousness though you what what I'm saying when you hit the corners knowing your not going to lose the front end it builds confidence and speed. When you have a leg that smarts when youdab it, it mnakes you overly cautious and slow.

I got back on a honda in september and feel like I still have not come that close to my limit in cornering this bike. I haven't lost the front end yet, so that's exciting because I seemd to get that alot on the big YZF.

oh on a side not if anyone has any hardware in their legs and has been contemplating removal, in my case it was helpful in reducing pain(along with a lot of prayers) and I'm back to jogging more freqently and even playing a little basketball again. Still hurts but much less since Nov. 27th.

[crfjedi393]

Originally Posted by joe346CBMX

Do I note a slight sense of sarcasm there smarty pants?

Sarcasm? From Doc? No way!
I knew the CRF would eventually speak for itself.

[Macho393]

seems this yami turns well enough
http://www.mxgurl.com/3p127/images/IMG_6573.jpg


disreguard the fact I rdie a honda,lol.

[Shoei_391]

Yeahhh sureeee...you honda guys may have a bike that handles well.......but yamaha is stone reliable

[DRGSin393]

Originally Posted by joe346CBMX

Do I note a slight sense of sarcasm there smarty pants? My appologies bro, I should have said something sooner and you'd be making millions...my bad

In all seriousness though you what what I'm saying when you hit the corners knowing your not going to lose the front end it builds confidence and speed. When you have a leg that smarts when youdab it, it mnakes you overly cautious and slow.

I got back on a honda in september and feel like I still have not come that close to my limit in cornering this bike. I haven't lost the front end yet, so that's exciting because I seemd to get that alot on the big YZF.

oh on a side not if anyone has any hardware in their legs and has been contemplating removal, in my case it was helpful in reducing pain(along with a lot of prayers) and I'm back to jogging more freqently and even playing a little basketball again. Still hurts but much less since Nov. 27th.

Oh no,not at all! I was just making fun of myself...as if a Honda would make me a better rider. . Im digging what youre saying though and if thats truly the case when I ride Jimbo's :wink, I may go red myself!

[MotoMan]

Originally Posted by DRGSin393

Oh no,not at all! I was just making fun of myself...as if a Honda would make me a better rider. . Im digging what youre saying though and if thats truly the case when I ride Jimbo's :wink, I may go red myself!

You mean IF Jimbo's taxes come back in the correct amount.

[joe346CBMX]

Originally Posted by Macho393

seems this Yamaha turns well enough
http://www.mxgurl.com/3p127/images/IMG_6573.jpg


disreguard the fact I rdie a honda,lol.

yeh but there is a great rut to stick it in, which helps, a lot.

Still he's got that baby laid way over, awesome pic by the way, wish I could do that. practice practice practie oh and maybe some skillzz would help me too. lol

anhoo i guess it can be done but i find it easier on the hondas than on the YZF's

[joe346CBMX]

Originally Posted by Shoei_391

Yeahhh sureeee...you honda guys may have a bike that handles well.......but yamaha is stone reliable

you know I once heard a wise man say that very same thing, hmmmm, you know that is what people love most about yami's. I never had one mechanical problem on the 3 yami's I had. 250f, 250 2t and 450f

[Macho393]

Originally Posted by joe346CBMX

yeh but there is a great rut to stick it in, which helps, a lot.

Still he's got that baby laid way over, awesome pic by the way, wish I could do that. practice practice practie oh and maybe some skillzz would help me too. lol

anhoo i guess it can be done but i find it easier on the hondas than on the YZF's

there is a reason I now only ride (don't look Jedi) Hondas

[RPM_RUSH]

Would u guys say this is true for the 125 also? the turning thing that is.