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Old 11-07-2018, 10:12 AM
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(before I start: sorry for long post) hi, I'm Brady. I'm 15 and 5'6" and 120lbs, and I am currently saving up for a new 125cc pit bike under 1k. yes, yes I already know that should just save up for a nicer one and not a Chinese one, but I want to be sure that dirt bikes are something I want to do, so I don't want to go crazy on my first one. I have ridden bikes before and I understand and can operate a manual (which is what I want). I also have experience with small engines so I can handle maintenance. so the point is, I put my choice between two different bikes, but I can't decide what would be the best choice in the long run. I have split my choice between the COOLSTER M125 (in red), which is Coolsters souped-up, nicer version. (their most common one is the qg214, but this is NOT that) it's this:killermotorsports.com/coolster-125cc-m125-manual-pit-dirt-bike. when you search it make sure its the "M125". then my other choice is an Apollo DB-X18 (in yellow): redfoxpowersports.com/apollo-db-x18-125cc-dirt-bike-4-speed-manual-clutch-front-rear-17-14-wheels. I will now talk about the pros and cons of my knowledge-

APOLLO: 125cc, $840 w/shipping, seat: 36.5 inches, wheels 17/14, 150lbs, gas - 1.25gal, manual clutch, mph: a video showed 53 with a full grown man (I'm 115lbs so it must be a bit faster for me)

COOLSTER: 125cc, $860 w/ shipping, seat 35 inches, wheels - 17/14, weight - 180, gas - 1.5gal, manual - clutch 4-speed, mph: claims 40 on most sites

so now that's all said, my plans to get it by next summer so I might weigh maybe 10 pounds more(little difference), but I plan to ride maybe 2-3 times a week mostly in grass/dirt flat ground. I'm not gonna race or anything, just something for fun, and i don't plan to ride in winter, rain, or super muddy places (mom would lose it) . OKAY...Finally, the real question: in the long run (based off specs, me, riding style, parts, etc) what would be the best option? thank you so much to whoever read this far and will answer me. I know I have a lot of questions, but I'm new to this, and I want to be sure. thank you!

(p.s) the good thing about these pit bikes, is that they are larger than normal, so I won't grow out of it)

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Old 11-07-2018, 12:03 PM
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I suggest saving more money and purchase a bike you can get parts for in the future.

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Old 11-07-2018, 03:59 PM
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yes, but as i said, i want to start with something cheap, and if i really enjoy it,
then i will sell it, and then start saving for something better.

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yes, but as i said, i want to start with something cheap, and if i really enjoy it,
then i will sell it, and then start saving for something better.
i really don't want other bike suggestions if anyone can help it. based off my budget and timeframe, this is what I can afford, and I really just need someone experienced, to tell me which is the best choice out of the 2.
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Cheap, but you want it to run for a while, right?
Check on replacement parts for each before making up you mind.

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Old 11-07-2018, 06:45 PM
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yes, I was sure to check that, and I was able to find LOTS of parts AND upgrades on Amazon that are compatible with these bikes: tires, spark plugs, plastics, brakes, brake lines, carburetors, you name it. and from what I understand all of these Chinese bikes are based off the same platform of parts. so everything is compatible with almost everything
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Like it was said save up get a name brand 125 you will be glad u did .
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You'll be hard-pressed to find someone on here to recommend a Chinese bike. There's a reason Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, and Kawasaki (as well as the Europeans KTM/Husqvarna/GasGas/etc) have been around for as long as they have. I suppose I personally have a different definition of cheap. 3 years ago I got my girls a bike (2003 Yamaha PW50) for $600. I put all the maintenance up to date for a couple hundred bucks. Now, if I decided to sell it, I figure I could get at least $600 for it. This translates to around a $200 expense for me. If I had bought them a cheap, no parts, no reliability, no-name Chinese bike for $800+ dollars, I'd be lucky to get $300 for and it would probably be best to recycle it.
When we talk "parts" were not talking about sparkplugs and equally-poor-as-the-original Chinese carburetors. We're talking jets, gaskets, piston, crank, stator... the important stuff that goes out or needs to be fine tuned. I recently had a customer drop a nice amount on restoring a Yamaha Warrior (...only God knows why, I might add) just to decide to finish up the build with a Chinese carburetor. Quad gets delivered, he loves the way it looks... and hates the way it runs. He asks me to jet the quad. Guess what? Jets from the original carb don't fit the cheap copycat carb and so now he's stuck waiting to get a proper carburetor. R&D has a cost and copies (particularly Chinese copies) are rarely as good as the original. My final advice: look for a rougher condition REAL bike. Negotiate and buy it as cheap as possible. Buy the service manual. Go to town learning everything you possibly can about bikes. Odds are you'll be able to sell it down the road and break even or lose very little and have the know-how to properly keep up with a nicer bike with better parts availability and resale value... say a TTR125, XR100, CRF150R or venture into the "racier" bikes: yz125, cr125, kx125, rm125, older 250f. Those can be had for around $1000 in my local market almost any day.
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okay, I will look into used bikes, I really appreciate all of your input! you have been most helpful
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If I had a nickel for every time someone came into the parts department where I work and told me their Chinese knock-off bike "is the same as an XR50" I would be a VERY rich man.

Save a little more cash, get yourself a good beginner trail bike and have fun. It's going to be worth it in the long run.
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